Quote Originally Posted by LegalizeTheGreen
While the democrats are guilty of some pretty stupid things, there is a difference between leading the charge, and being forced to go along with it. It wasn't a democrat that told us there were WMD's and Al Queda in Iraq, though they did agree to go along with it. But thats the difference, when you're lied to, and supplied false information, should you really be held fully accountable?
So you are giving the democrats a free pass? What about Clinton and his statements against Iraq, Kerry and his statements.. Majority of the democratic party that have been quoted as saying that action needs to be taken against Iraq even if it means military force. This was all before George W. Bush's administration. Again you need to do some reading.

Secondly, if you don't believe in war and you let someone bully you around so you change your vote in their favor.. then that is really pathetic. If you believe in something then you should stand up and shout it. If the democrats did not want to go to war then they should've been united and stopped it when they had the chance. For years they showed support for the war. Even after no WMD's were found.


As for the Illegality of the war, I was refering to the global aspect, not the national one. Again, it isn't hard to sell a war to some scared shitless countrymen, especially when you use lies.
We have no global governing body. Technically no laws were broken. The legality of the war is all perception on a global scale. We were supported by mass number of nations. Really the only people who were against it were China, Russia and France who all had their grubby little hands in Iraq. Again, go read up.

Finally, while I agree politicians are almost always guilty of flip flopping (god i hate that term though), there is a difference between flopping around with similar ideals (those shared by Obama and Clinton are pretty much the same, just spun differently, they are members of the same party after all), and a supposedly moderate person flopping towards the shadow of our current president, which is somthing I hope no one wants to see.
Again, you give the democrats a free pass for doing something you criticize the republicans for. That is hypocrisy at it's best

Blame is on both sides. If you want I can go back and talk about what Clinton could've done in his administration to stop this. I can bring up a multitude of intelligence that could've stopped any of this from happening during his administration.

I can also go back to Bush senior and point out the flaws there. Point being is that it is our Fault as Americans for letting this go on and on. People are so uninformed now with the media today. They spoon feed us drama and spin the truth.

We should expect that all politicians are going to lie and manipulate. It is OUR job to fight against it and see through the masks they put on. Democrats or Republicans, neither are innocent.

Good day sir. :thumbsup: