Very well put, Also zeb i was reading somewhere in outdoor grow down in florida someone was growing TW in trees :wtf:, it was a pretty intresting log and it showed how he had them tied that he had 2 2x4's for a floor and had it in a hanging basket for soil, definetly something to look into, i'll try to find the post if possible and plants look amazing GL420, enjoy the rep and I hope you dont have to wack to many of those beautys send some this way if so! :thumbsup: