are you saying that the miracle grow with nutes is a bad idea because i just had my plants in vermiculite and they were doin fine till one day yellowing occured so we transplanted them into the miracle grow with nutes and shit they took off in one day multiplyin leaves at a very fast rate but this is in the seedling stage 15 days after germination only 3 " tall so i dont know at what point (stage) did u transfer to miracle grow with nutes ?? because im curious it doesnt make sense to me how it would be a mistake to use considering the effect it had on the plants i would say use it