"The Secret" Works for Weed!

[StickyfingahZ]

The Secret works for anything... IF you belive, of course.
And thats the secret of the secret... The secret of the secret is not knowing what is the secret, but believing in it.
The ones who believes, are the ones who can use it.

Hmmmm....Kinda like Kung Fu Panda.

StickyfingahZ Reviewed by StickyfingahZ on 06-20-2008. "The Secret" Works for Weed! I read the book and own the movie and I am a firm believer in "The Secret" because MMJ comes to me, even when I don't have money! As long as I focus on happy feelings about marijuana, I receive more in return! I suggest everybody either read the book or see the movie... The marijuana will cometh! :jointsmile:, Laura Rating: 5

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

I agree completly! And i dont mean it as a joke, as Dragonrider does. I mean seriously.

Coelho, I watched The Secret last summer and did believe in it, at least as a solid theory worth trying. I constantly focused on what I want, constantly believed that I would accomplish my goals, and was extremely certain that some very important things would go through for me. And guess what; it all fell apart. Everything. In fact I can confidently say from years of experience with this consistent phenomenon, that the more certain I am that something will work, the better chance that it won't. Likewise, the only time shit ever does work out for me is when I finally, completely and utterly, give up and lose hope. Based on obvious and consistent experience, I give more validity to Murphey's Law than the Law of Attraction.

[dragonrider]

Gandalf, maybe you have something in you that negates The Secret. Maybe the more you hold the goal in your mind, the more you choose the "wrong" path. Or it could be that the theory is bunk.

I watched 60 Minutes last weekend and they had a feature on why the Danes are the happiest people on Earth. One guy's theory is that it is because the Danes are somewhat glum and pessimsitic by nature. They have low expectations, so when things turn out not to be so bad after all, they are really happy about it. I thought this was really funny. But maybe by expecting great things to happen, you set yourself up for disappointment. Or maybe this theory is total bunk too!

I'm sure it is importatnt to hold good things in your mind, work toward them and hope for the best. But it is also important to be realistic about failure and other bad outcomes. There may be no Secret.

[GreenDestiny]

the real secret is to have a plan on how to take advantage of a situation when things work out for the best...
and to also have a backup plan for when things don't work out.

that way you can always come out ahead. preparation and some self-confidence is all you need.

totally giving up your own choices and leaving it up to random chance is foolish, I think. Actions speak louder than words. Words speak louder than thoughts. Thoughts are useless until they become words/actions.

I knew where to be to have free weed come my way. I knew who to be nice to so they'd smoke me out. I'm responsible for what happened, not some watered down Jedi mind trick.

But it's hella fun to try and send the good vibes out as I go along... doesn't cost me a dime.

[NextLineIsMine]

I think the fact that its called "the secret" should point out the sheer bogusness of it.

You get people excited enough and theyll believe in anything

[Perp]

Too bad we can't teach the secret to all the starving, homeless, and disenfranchised people all over the world so they can get wealth too.

Oh, but then some would put the blame of their misfortune squarely on their own heads because they don't believe in 'The Secret.'

The only thing I wish for is that I had thought up the scheme myself since it is such a good money maker.

[Coelho]

I can confidently say from years of experience with this consistent phenomenon, that the more certain I am that something will work, the better chance that it won't.

And you only watched the secret last summer, long after you have noticed this... then you tried to use the secret in your life and unsurprisingly... it didnt work! Why was so?
Because youre yes using the secret, but unconsciously and only against yourself. You even says:

Based on obvious and consistent experience, I give more validity to Murphey's Law than the Law of Attraction.

So, obviously, things must go wrong for you. If you think that everything will go wrong in the worst way, and if you believe in it with your deepest feelings, than of course it will be so.
And the mere fact you give credit of the Murpheys law shows the validity of the Law of attraction... your pessimism attracts the Murpheys law. And it validates your pessimism. Its a snowball effect...

The secret does not work for the shallow words thought repeatedly, as people thinks. Just thinking "i will become rich" several times each day wont make you rich. The secret works only for our sincerest and deepest feelings and beliefs. Because only they are strong, deep enough to influence things. If you tried it but was sure that it wouldnt work, then it just couldnt work.

I watched 60 Minutes last weekend and they had a feature on why the Danes are the happiest people on Earth. One guy's theory is that it is because the Danes are somewhat glum and pessimsitic by nature. They have low expectations, so when things turn out not to be so bad after all, they are really happy about it. I thought this was really funny. But maybe by expecting great things to happen, you set yourself up for disappointment.

Or like the buddhists say: the desire is the cause of pain...

Actions speak louder than words. Words speak louder than thoughts. Thoughts are useless until they become words/actions.

I would say that words also are useless unless they become actions... words by itself does nothing... they are just sounds in the wind... words only have effect if the one who hears it does (or doesnt) something because of them...

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

And you only watched the secret last summer, long after you have noticed this... then you tried to use the secret in your life and unsurprisingly... it didnt work! Why was so?
Because youre yes using the secret, but unconsciously and only against yourself. You even says:



So, obviously, things must go wrong for you. If you think that everything will go wrong in the worst way, and if you believe in it with your deepest feelings, than of course it will be so.
And the mere fact you give credit of the Murpheys law shows the validity of the Law of attraction... your pessimism attracts the Murpheys law. And it validates your pessimism. Its a snowball effect...

The secret does not work for the shallow words thought repeatedly, as people thinks. Just thinking "i will become rich" several times each day wont make you rich. The secret works only for our sincerest and deepest feelings and beliefs. Because only they are strong, deep enough to influence things. If you tried it but was sure that it wouldnt work, then it just couldnt work.

I spent years as a child being the most happy, optimistic kid most people had ever seen. Only through years of getting fucked over did I become so pessimistic in the first place. Pessimism did not start any of this, it's a result of my life.



Also I think most people aren't even aware that "The Law of Attraction" is a fallacious, misleading term that gives scientific connotations to the theory where none exist. It is not a scientific law, and is in fact based in ancient hinduism. It's nothing but a misleadingly scientific-sounding name used to replace the term "Karma". The purporters of the theory don't have a scientific leg to stand on, and are advocating nothing more than a several-thousand year old theory that's been repackaged and sold as new. Sorry, I know I'm excessively pessimistic sometimes, but years of nothing but pain and isolation can do that to a person.



Coelho, didn't you recently finish a 12-year degree in physics? That being said, do you know of anything in conventional or experimental physics that would support the Law of Attraction? I'm absolutely open to accepting this theory if there's some solid evidence to back it up. What I've been seeing, though, is a lot of people enthusiastically embracing it because of how great it sounds, without actualy verrifying the "facts" through evidence. I've always maintained that scepticism is actually the most open-minded way of thinking, because being a true sceptic means having a willingness to reject your own preconceptions as much as others'.

[GreenDestiny]

If there is any bit of evidence, "What the bleep do we know" discusses some stuff that sounds like it'd be the science behind the Secret.

Quantum shit is interesting stuff, too bad we'll never know everything about it if we can't observe it without observational interference.... even science needs faith, how ironic.

[Coelho]

I spent years as a child being the most happy, optimistic kid most people had ever seen. Only through years of getting fucked over did I become so pessimistic in the first place. Pessimism did not start any of this, it's a result of my life.

Well... in this case, all i can say is that what the life did to you is enough... you shouldnt help it adding yourself more misery to it... bad thoughts only increases the suffering.
Yet im aware that my advice can be useless for you, cause we live different realities. During a recent health problem i had which caused me some hours of intense pain, i noticed how easily pain changes ones world view, so what makes perfect sense for me may be nonsense for you and vice versa... anyway... its the best i could say.

Coelho, didn't you recently finish a 12-year degree in physics? That being said, do you know of anything in conventional or experimental physics that would support the Law of Attraction? I'm absolutely open to accepting this theory if there's some solid evidence to back it up. What I've been seeing, though, is a lot of people enthusiastically embracing it because of how great it sounds, without actualy verrifying the "facts" through evidence. I've always maintained that scepticism is actually the most open-minded way of thinking, because being a true sceptic means having a willingness to reject your own preconceptions as much as others'.

I should study 12 years to be a full-fledged physicist... but i stopped at the half of it (remember im only 25). Anyway it does not matter because if i continued i would only study more specific things about a sub area of a sub area of physics, and it wouldnt help anything in a discussion about "general" physics.

When i first heard about the Law of Atraction, it hasnt this obviously-comercial name... it was in a book of psycho-cybernetics, which explained that our mind is divided in two parts: one is the thinking/commanding part and other is a doing/obeying part.

So when we want to do something, for example, to type one key at the keyboard, our thinking mind sends a command to the doing part, like "hit such key with such finger", and the doing part calculates the tension needed to be reached by each muscle to accomplish the movement, and send the nervous signal to the muscles that actually make you type the key.

But this doing part does not work only for concrete actions, but also for abstract ones. So if your thinking mind commands your doing mind to follow an objective like "fail in everything i try", the doing mind will do anything at its disposition to ensure that the this order of the thinking mind be obeyed. The doing mind does not think (cause its the job of the thinking mind), only does whatever the thinking mind tells it to do.

And this doing mind has control not only over our muscles, but over our entire body, through nerves that connect every organ, the blood that carries substances that change the way that the organs and tissues works (like neurotransmitters, hormones, etc), etc... so depending on the commands that the thinking mind gives to it, the doing mind can improve or impair our health, due its great influence over the workings of the body.

It was taken as an explanation for the called "miracles" obtained by the use of the (today called) law of attraction, what i would rather call as positive thinking, well as for the called psychosomatic disorders.

As it made sense for me when i did read it, i started to believe in it, and my own experience started to confirm the validity of it in such astounding ways that i was convinced very soon. I achieved things beyond my wildest expectations just by wishing whole heartedly and believing that i could achieve them... and then i learned what is the base of the law of the attraction (how the intent creates reality), and it did even more sense, so i was really convinced.

And the evidences from the study of the physics are even deeper:

If there is any bit of evidence, "What the bleep do we know" discusses some stuff that sounds like it'd be the science behind the Secret.

Quantum shit is interesting stuff, too bad we'll never know everything about it if we can't observe it without observational interference.... even science needs faith, how ironic.

Indeed... while the movie is intended for the general public and so its also a bit comercial, its a explanation good enough of some physical concepts, even if the applications of such concepts in the law of attraction may be questionable.

The quantum mechanics showed that the atomic particles only have defined physical properties after we measure them. Before the measurement, the atomic particles does NOT have defined physical properties, so they can be anything. For example, a quantum coin. While a normal (called classical) coin can be either heads or tails, a quantum coin before a measurement (before you look it to see if its tails or heads) is heads, and tails, and every mixture of heads and tails at the same time. Only when you look at it the coin becomes one definite thing, tails or heads.

It limits enormously the amount of knowledge we can have about the universe. Only the things that are being (or were) observed (and thus measured) have defined physical proprierties, that can be calculed upon, and understood as being cause or effect of other things. So, everything that was not measured is an imprevisible variable, and thus outside the realm of scientific explanation.
After noticing this fundamental limitation of the usual physics i lost the interest in it, and become interested in other things that could give me explanations about this (physically) imprevisible things.

Also, the fact that the measurement changes the thing being measured is the clearest proof of the influence of the mind over the reality itself. Cause measurement is observation. When we look at anything, we are in a certain way measuring its properties (position, velocity, etc). So, before an observation the quantum coin was in a state (a mixture of everything), and the act of observing it changed its state to a heads (or tails) state. The state of the coin was changed because we percieved (observed) the coin. The perception is a thing done by the mind, so we can say that our mind changed the state of the coin, or in other words, changed the reality (as we could say that the state of the coin is real).

We can go further and realize that as the physical properties of any quantum particle only are defined after we measure them, we can say that our perception (measurement) creates the physical properties. As the physical properties of the objects are what define them, and most humans usually take the physical objects as being "the reality", then we can say that the reality is created by our perception, what is not a new idea at all, but was said already by ancient sages long ago... but only recently it was aknowledged by the science (even if most scientists are not aware of this aknowledgement hidden in the fundaments of the quantum mechanics.)