Quote Originally Posted by bullitt
Thanks for the info, but the quote from MR.C was that the labs would test for the actual ph and creatinin levels, not just that it was over a certain level. And further, that they would see that so many samples had the same exact Creatinin count, THEN they would test the quick fix, see that is the same creatinin level as of the test's they did, and then be able to detect quick fix.

I do not think that that is possible, as I don't believe the labs would ever test for exact levels, if it passes the quick validity and drug test, they would never spend the extra money to diagnose the samples.
When labs perform validity testing (pH, creatinine, specific gravity) they do analyze the actual levels in order to rule if the urine sample is either "diluted" "adulterated" or "substituted". For the initial analysis, a colorimetric assay is utilized. This type of assay gives a semi-quantitive value for each constituent panel based on the color reaction. An example of this assay can be found on the craigmedical website.

The test strips that Ive mentioned earlier are essentially the same colorimetric assays the labs use.

Mr Cs theory is off the mark a bit. A synthetic sample is ruled "non-human" when..
a) The creatinine level is zero while the other constituents are within satisfactory ranges

b) All of the constituents have broken down to zero.
These conditions are indicative of an old expired synthetic batch, or a batch that was exposed to direct sunlight.

Like I said earlier, as long as the synthetic is current and been stored properly, it will pass the validity checks.