Dems pay scant attention to successes in Iraq

[L Rag]

All I've been reading on this page is delusionofnormality's posts and I just had 2 say you're the buzziest poster on these forums aye.everything you say I have to think about twice and buzz out thinking about it hahaha.+rep bro

Me I want the war over I dont care about Iraq. I want the money being spent over there to be used here at home. I dont care if Iran goes in there and takes over because the politicians over there cant get there act together. People here at home are hurting and just think of the people that went through Katrina like Miss.Steve and whats going to happen to the people up in Iowa going through the same thing. Iraq is the least of my concerns I dont care if you think buy bringing our troops home is losing. Bring them home and bring that money home and put it to some good use.

Think about it bro, imagine being an Iraqi person.. America walks in and bombs your homes, pretty much takes over your country and fuck you in the ass... and its alright for America to just walk away? They gotta help clean up the mess they made. Just walking away is completely selfish, but hey it's america so what do we expect...

[Psycho4Bud]

I personally believe, we need out of Iraq. We accomplished our mission! Whatever government, let them do it; As the U.S. did with the 13 colonies! If they cannot work together, it is their problem. Or, we can send our Mods from this site to keep them in line! But, we'd miss them! And surely, we would send them protection!

GREAT point....IF we were to leave then lets leave completely! There are only two options: Either see this thing through or a complete withdrawl. The idea of leaving a skeleton force is SICK!!

I'd LOVE to take ol' Obama into a biker bar with 60 people, raise some hell, then leave him and one person behind while the rest of us go down the road for a while. He wouldn't mind doing it to our troops...what the hell? Between his thoughts on that combined with his comments regarding the surge...he has consistantly proven that he knows NOTHING about the military.

Have a good one!:s4:

[suhl]

LMAO! I guess Obama didn't know what the hell he was talking about.....great candidate for President; Commander in Chief.

Have a good one!:s4:

kind of like bush when he made that bonehead mistake of ignoring memos like "bin laden determined to attack inside the united states." what a klutz lol! i guess he was busy lying to us to get into iraq in the first place. WHOOPSIE. but hey five years and thousands of deaths later the monthly death toll is down!! presidency redeemed! a glowing success a monumental moment in presidential history.

Have a good one! :jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

kind of like bush when he made that bonehead mistake of ignoring memos like "bin laden determined to attack inside the united states." what a klutz lol!

In 1993, the first World Trade Center bombing killed six people.

In 1998, the bombing of two U.S. embassies in Africa killed 224.

Both were the work of al-Qaida and bin Laden, who in 1998 declared holy war on America, making him arguably the most wanted man in the world.

In 1998, President Clinton announced, â??We will use all the means at our disposal to bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes.â?�

NBC News has obtained, exclusively, extraordinary secret video, shot by the U.S. government. It illustrates an enormous opportunity the Clinton administration had to kill or capture bin Laden. Critics call it a missed opportunity.
Osama bin Laden: missed opportunities - Nightly News with Brian Williams - MSNBC.com

From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.

Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.

The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize

Seems that Clinton and the Dems left a pile of shit to contend with...but I guess if people feel better to blame Bush.

i guess he was busy lying to us to get into iraq in the first place. WHOOPSIE. but hey five years and thousands of deaths later the monthly death toll is down!! presidency redeemed! a glowing success a monumental moment in presidential history.

Have a good one! :jointsmile:

You mean like these ones before Bush was even elected?
http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/...cricy-war.html

This can't be right....why would B. Clinton, Pelosi and others state the same lies?

Have a good one!:s4:

Have a good one!:s4:

[40oz]

we embrace politics instead of politesse because it is easier to blame someone else than to claim personal responsibility for the errors that are bound to happen and to forgive.

You have a point, but the whole point of a governing authority is to protect our freedom from eachother. For example, could you ever picture someone who is a psychopath thinking about other people? Some people will do whatever it takes to get what they want; lie, steal, kill, anything.
Some people just crave power, it is a character flaw but it is a part of human nature we all posses.

To believe we could live in some kind of a world ruled only by the power of love and forgiveness is a serious misjudgment of human nature. It depends on us all using our sense of reason to operate on our sympathetic passions. Our sense of reason is controlled by our passions, not the other way around. I don't know if that kind of world could work.

[painretreat]

I really would really like to see what people think we should do in or with Iraq? I for one, dream we can keep our troops and people safe! Perhaps, that is a pipe dream! I just do not know how we can accomplish that!

40oz, you have very legit comments and by reading this thread, it is obvious that not only is the need for some people to crave power and it is a flaw, not just in the White House (where we need sympathetic passion with a strong tincture of formal justice) but in just reading here. A crave of power exists in more than just politicians, even if it is one person controlling and rambling on in this thread!

At least, we are very lucky to get the real facts. And have someone open our eyes to the truth; giving us direction-where to go to get the facts to form an opinion!

I am so undecided with the upcoming election, if I don't read everything I feel I will make a big mistake. Not that any one person feels that one vote makes that much difference. I feel, it is my privilege and right as an American to know the difference, be diligent and vote with my personal belief of what is best for American's and the World, as a whole! thanks, I am getting more informed, daily! pr :thumbsup: