Quote Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
It's about human rights, not american citizen rights. Gathering information through water torture doesn't stand up in a real court which is why they wanted them trialed in a military tribunal where they could be sentenced to death and not appeal. Justice was served, you're wrong McCain.
I posted this recently but felt the need to follow up on this particular post:

The amendment affected the United States Senate Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2006 ("DOD Act"); the amendment is commonly referred to as the Amendment on (1) the Army Field Manual and (2) Cruel, Inhumane, Degrading Treatment, amendment #1977 and also known as the McCain Amendment 1977. It became the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 ("DTA") as Division A, Title X of the DOD Act.[3] The amendment prohibits inhumane treatment of prisoners, including prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, by confining interrogations to the techniques in FM 34-52 Intelligence Interrogation. Also, section 1005(e) of the DTA prohibits aliens detained in Guantanamo Bay from applying for a writ of habeas corpus.[1][4] Certain portions of the amendment were enacted as 42 U.S.C. § 2000dd.

Amendment 1977 amended the defense appropriations bill for 2005 passed by the United States House of Representatives. The amendment was introduced to the Senate by Senator John McCain (R-Arizona) on October 3, 2005 as S.AMDT.1977.


McCain is all for Human rights, he just doesn't believe in giving American rights to non Americans (thus the reason for me putting in bold "aliens"). But I would never expect anyone here who just chooses to blindly bash the Right (this is not directed at you; this is a general message to the board members as a great number of you refuse to look at the flaws on both sides of the table. Too much fingerpointing here.) without even looking up to see if they are justified in their attack.

Good day. :jointsmile:

edit: Just want to reitterate that this was not an attack on you Reefer. I simply felt it was a good example on how alot of people on the board tend to yell misinformation. You are not in the US (at least judging by your listed location) and I don't expect you to know all the happenings in our country; but some of the other people on here who are in the US I would hope to get a little more from. This isn't meant as an insult to ANYONE... but rather I'm trying to encourage people to read and research before blindly crying wolf. I feel it's important regardless of what your political stance is. No hard feelings reefer? :thumbsup: