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    #11
    Member

    2008 why vote

    Quote Originally Posted by psteve
    If you're too stupid to figure out who to vote for, then thank you for not voting.
    Voting should be a privilege that you earn and look forward to, and a responsibility that you should be REQUIRED to discharge.
    IMO, If you can vote but don't, you shouldn't get a drivers license, a marriage license, a fishing license, a business license, or even a dog license.
    go boy

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    #12
    Senior Member

    2008 why vote

    Write YOURSELF in, Dude!
    Smartest thing you could do.

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    #13
    Senior Member

    2008 why vote

    To have the notion that your vote doesn't count is ridiculous.

    Look at the recent Dem race. In a lot of places votes came down to the very nitty gritty.

    And for all you know the Presidential election could come down to the same thing.




    Be a part of history! Don't prove those a-holes in the government right by not voting. By not voting you are only proving a stereotype that stoners and young people don't vote.

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    #14
    Senior Member

    2008 why vote

    Quote Originally Posted by rebgirl420
    To have the notion that your vote doesn't count is ridiculous.

    Look at the recent Dem race. In a lot of places votes came down to the very nitty gritty.

    And for all you know the Presidential election could come down to the same thing.




    Be a part of history! Don't prove those a-holes in the government right by not voting. By not voting you are only proving a stereotype that stoners and young people don't vote.
    Reb, if the avatar is accurate, it's best to just let him sit it out...

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    #15
    Senior Member

    2008 why vote

    I guess thats the only political movement some are accustomed to.

    Sorry haha.

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    #16
    Junior Member

    2008 why vote

    You vote for representatives, and their decision can change in an instant. But if you don't want to vote, then don't. Take it as your freedom not to.

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    #17
    Member

    2008 why vote

    Lol is this the DG ZiG?

    Barack seems too sheisty to me at this point. McCain was a definite no from the start. ZiG's right though, there really is no choice.
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    #18
    Senior Member

    2008 why vote

    Don't let anyone put you under any duress about voting. It's a choice, not a duty. Just because i live in a country doesn't mean i support the government who runs it. Just because i drive on the roads, doesn't mean i support the taxes to do so. It's tacit consent. If people are born under a government they didn't vote for then they are expected to respect and obey all laws established by that government. Is this freedom and equality? I would argue not. Everyone is born free. The history of governments have been forcefully or fraudulantly obtained to gain power over the people, not to enforce the wishes of the people. Historically, there was a divide between the rulers and ruled, where as today the politicians would claim different. Under a mainly 2 party system, it can often become a situation of voting in the 'lesser of evils,' many people feel this way, you are not alone.

    'If you dont like america - GIT OUT'
    Yes, because that's a reasonable and affordable choice for everyone.

    You are no less of a citizen for not voting because you are alive and your existence is beneficial in itself. Not voting doesn't make me or anyone immoral, if i choose to exercise my anarchist principles than that is my choice and it only strengthens my own autonomy. Conservatives relate anarchy to chaos, saying such a situation would lead to a life which is nasty brutish and short and would lead to a war of all against all. The government likes to paint a lovely benevolent picture of them providing safety and security, they claim those that oppose are threats. In reality we can't go back to a state of nature. I don't need a government to live my life happily, i only need freedom and lack of government intereference and oppression. I leave you with this quote:

    'To be governed is to be watched over, inspected, spied on, directed, legislated, regimented, closed in, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, assessed, evaluated, censored, commanded; all by creatures that have neither the right, nor wisdom, nor virtue...
    To be governed means that at every move, operation or transaction one is noted, registered, entered in a census, taxed, stamped... reformed, set right, corrected. Government means to be subjected to tribute, trained, ransomed, exploited, monopolized, extorted, pressured, mystified, robbed; all in the name of public utility and the general good. Then, at the first sign of resistance or word of complaint, one is repressed, fined... imprisoned, shot, machine gunned, judged, sentenced, deported... and to cap it all, ridiculed, mocked outraged and dishonoured. That is government, that is justice, that is morailty!' - P.J Proudhon

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    #19
    Senior Member

    2008 why vote

    Quote Originally Posted by rebgirl420
    If you don't vote you don't have any right to bitch about what ends up happening.

    People gave their lives to uphold this process. It is your duty as an American to vote.
    whether you think your vote counts or not, you have an obligation (a moral one) to vote in every election you're allowed to vote in.

    if you don't, then just sit there on your 'pot' and keep your mouth shut!

    you can also make your voice be heard in other ways, for instance by supporting NORML and MPP, and takeing part in 420 march's and stuff like that

    want to start a million stoner march on washington next 4\20?
    sound like a good idea? you can count me in!

    just remember, bitching about the way things are while you sit on your ass doing nothing is a complete waste of time, it's just verbal diarhea!

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    #20
    Senior Member

    2008 why vote

    Quote Originally Posted by psteve
    If you're too stupid to figure out who to vote for, then thank you for not voting.
    It is not that he is too stupid to figure out who to vote for. He is not happy with the selection. This happens every year. We are given two ridiculous choices to choose from. None of these candidates represent me and my thoughts, but these are my choices? Out of all the people in this country why do we end up with the same lunch meat between different bread? Honestly I am fed up with the selections we have.

    Quote Originally Posted by psteve
    Voting should be a privilege that you earn and look forward to, and a responsibility that you should be REQUIRED to discharge.
    Voting is not a privilege, but a right that each one of us have as an American. A privilege is something that can be taken away, a right is something that can not.

    Quote Originally Posted by psteve
    IMO, If you can vote but don't, you shouldn't get a drivers license, a marriage license, a fishing license, a business license, or even a dog license.
    Why should you need a license at all? May sound like an ignorant question, but think about this one before you answer.

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