Do You Think John McCain Represents â??Changeâ?�?

[Psycho4Bud]

Ha ha! I hope you recover from your heart attack! Remember, Barack Obama has a plan to be sure you have the health insurance you need!

Just got back from the E.R.....seems I'll live.

He may have a plan but I'm sure $9.00/gal. gas is in that plan; the way it is in other countries that pay to play.

Seriously though, I'm pretty middle-of-the-road on a lot of issues, and McCain is more moderate than he will protray himself for the election. I can respect him and see his good sides. But I'm supporting Obama, so that's probably the last time you'll hear me say anything like that until after McCain concedes in November!

Believe it or not I'm in a similar position: I'm for abortion, legalizing ALL recreational drugs, pro-gay marriage, pro-med. m.j., pro-Gitmo, and torture when it could be vital. Not very "McCainish" but my other views, which I feel are more important at the time, are FAR from Obama.

ONCE AGAIN we are in a situation of not who we're voting for but who we're voting against.

Have a good one!:s4:

[rebgirl420]

McCain represents no change at all.

I absolutely cannot stand him. Right now the only reason I am voting for him is that I hate Obama more.

He's poked Republicans in the eye every chance he has got. He had some good social views that I could agree with but then when he was elected he changed them all so that people would vote for him. It's fucked up. I do agree with some of his stuff though, like no socialised healthcare, guns, the border, and the war.

We need a Libertarian in there.

[beachguy in thongs]

I need change. John McCain will keep me suffering. Nothing would change.

I need change.

[Reefer Rogue]

He doesn't represent change at all, he claims he does. He should retire and save some of his money, he wouldn't want to get ill and pay a billion dollars for healthcare.

[daihashi]

He doesn't represent change at all, he claims he does. He should retire and save some of his money, he wouldn't want to get ill and pay a billion dollars for healthcare.

Here in America most employers.. MOST... will pay for your health insurance. You might have to pay some small fee $20-$100 monthly for an individual, but at least we're not being taxed 50% or more unlike other Socialized governments where yes, everyone has medical care, but it takes forever to see a doctor.

I have canadian friends that travel into the United States to recieve healthcare.

Now if we're talking about pharmaceutical companies then I would have to agree. They are overpriced and seem to find new ways to undermine the American people to steal their money.

I find it funny how many people talk so much crap about America and the Social programs or lack there of that we have; yet when someone needs military help they welcome us with open arms.. then proceed to continue to talk crap when it's over.

I am not a fan of socialized services. I don't believe I should be punished for someone elses inability to get health insurance. In addition we have government funded programs such as Medicaid and Medicare (which I am familiar with as my brother, being handicapped, recieves government health care)... and in Texas I believe we even have a state funded program in addition to that. They are not the best but to be honest I bet they're at least on par with other socialized forms of healthcare in other countries.

If everyone is equal then who get's to ever see a doctor.. and if everyone is getting this service free of charge then who is paying for it?

Socialized programs have their own issues that you must acknowledge.

We actually have alot of programs here in America; most of which we've made sure my brother has gotten or is eligible for. I feel most of the complaint of the American people is out of laziness. It took time to get all these programs for my brother but we did get them, and we don't pay anything for his healthcare.

Sorry that we don't hand out services, we do require some effort on the people's part which I feel deters alot of people who don't truely need it and are capable of providing for themselves.

Remember when you point your finger at someone there are 3 more that are pointed right back at you :P.

[thcbongman]

Here in America most employers.. MOST... will pay for your health insurance. You might have to pay some small fee $20-$100 monthly for an individual, but at least we're not being taxed 50% or more unlike other Socialized governments where yes, everyone has medical care, but it takes forever to see a doctor.

I have canadian friends that travel into the United States to recieve healthcare.

Now if we're talking about pharmaceutical companies then I would have to agree. They are overpriced and seem to find new ways to undermine the American people to steal their money.

I find it funny how many people talk so much crap about America and the Social programs or lack there of that we have; yet when someone needs military help they welcome us with open arms.. then proceed to continue to talk crap when it's over.

I am not a fan of socialized services. I don't believe I should be punished for someone elses inability to get health insurance. In addition we have government funded programs such as Medicaid and Medicare (which I am familiar with as my brother, being handicapped, recieves government health care)... and in Texas I believe we even have a state funded program in addition to that. They are not the best but to be honest I bet they're at least on par with other socialized forms of healthcare in other countries.

If everyone is equal then who get's to ever see a doctor.. and if everyone is getting this service free of charge then who is paying for it?

Socialized programs have their own issues that you must acknowledge.

We actually have alot of programs here in America; most of which we've made sure my brother has gotten or is eligible for. I feel most of the complaint of the American people is out of laziness. It took time to get all these programs for my brother but we did get them, and we don't pay anything for his healthcare.

Sorry that we don't hand out services, we do require some effort on the people's part which I feel deters alot of people who don't truely need it and are capable of providing for themselves.

Remember when you point your finger at someone there are 3 more that are pointed right back at you :P.

America has social programs for health care, but not enough for them. The danger for Americans are not the ones who are eligible for coverage, it's the ones who aren't. Once that Certificate of Coverage expired you are basically dead as a dog on the street if you have a terminal illness. Medicaid or Medicare won't pay for chemotherapy, won't pay for the necessary clean-up surgeries. They'll pay enough to keep you comfortible unti death even if it's a treatable form of cancer.

I can see what you are saying that there is a laziness factor, but for the most part people are denied procedures based on their medical history and cost-saving measures. I'm not saying the solution is universal health care, but such a system where the government plays more of a role covering procedures health insurance companies won't cover. Have the government subsidize medical deductions to pay for the best health care for those that don't make alot of money. Allow people coverage for all life-saving procedures regardless if they have a job or not. No one should be denied treatment based on a pre-existing condition. A dual system could off-set costs while allowing medical companies to profit with more oversight and ethics. Might pay a bit more in tax, but with less being deducted from your paycheck for insurance, you wouldn't lose anything.

[BigWeed]

Here in America most employers.. MOST... will pay for your health insurance. You might have to pay some small fee $20-$100 monthly for an individual, but at least we're not being taxed 50% or more unlike other Socialized governments where yes, everyone has medical care, but it takes forever to see a doctor.

I have canadian friends that travel into the United States to recieve healthcare.

Now if we're talking about pharmaceutical companies then I would have to agree. They are overpriced and seem to find new ways to undermine the American people to steal their money.

I find it funny how many people talk so much crap about America and the Social programs or lack there of that we have; yet when someone needs military help they welcome us with open arms.. then proceed to continue to talk crap when it's over.

I am not a fan of socialized services. I don't believe I should be punished for someone elses inability to get health insurance. In addition we have government funded programs such as Medicaid and Medicare (which I am familiar with as my brother, being handicapped, recieves government health care)... and in Texas I believe we even have a state funded program in addition to that. They are not the best but to be honest I bet they're at least on par with other socialized forms of healthcare in other countries.

If everyone is equal then who get's to ever see a doctor.. and if everyone is getting this service free of charge then who is paying for it?

Socialized programs have their own issues that you must acknowledge.

We actually have alot of programs here in America; most of which we've made sure my brother has gotten or is eligible for. I feel most of the complaint of the American people is out of laziness. It took time to get all these programs for my brother but we did get them, and we don't pay anything for his healthcare.

Sorry that we don't hand out services, we do require some effort on the people's part which I feel deters alot of people who don't truely need it and are capable of providing for themselves.

Remember when you point your finger at someone there are 3 more that are pointed right back at you :P.

What happens when your employer drops you because you got sick or hurt and you have to pay for the health care plan yourself. Its a pain in the##$ is what it is. I know its happening to me. What does Mccain have to offer to me nothing. I had to change everything in my whole life style because of him and all the republicans and Bush. They offer nothing to me only the rich.:rasta::rastasmoke:imp:

[dragonrider]

What happens when your employer drops you because you got sick or hurt and you have to pay for the health care plan yourself. Its a pain in the##$ is what it is. I know its happening to me.

Yes, this is quite common. A person may have fine health insurance, then lose their job due to illness, and be completely screwed. My brother-in-law is going through that right now. His disabilty insurance will only last awhile longer and even while he has it, it's not enough to even pay his rent let alone pay his health insurance premiums. There are some operations that might restore enough mobility to his screwed up joints to allow him to return to work, but there is no way he can pay for them. There is no governemnt agency that will pay for them either. He's not a lazy person who doesn't want to work. He's a disabled worker who can't get the medical care to return to work.

[JeffersonBud]

Education and health care are not determined by the president. They are determined by the Rothchilds. Follow the money and you will surly find out who leads this country.

[daihashi]

What happens when your employer drops you because you got sick or hurt and you have to pay for the health care plan yourself. Its a pain in the##$ is what it is. I know its happening to me. What does Mccain have to offer to me nothing. I had to change everything in my whole life style because of him and all the republicans and Bush. They offer nothing to me only the rich.:rasta::rastasmoke:imp:

So the needs of the few outweight the needs of the many?

I'm not trying to sound callous but there are government programs available to help you in such situations. And yes while it is usually an ordeal and a hassle to get approved for these programs you will get through eventually. It took my brother 6 months to get full benefits from the government. Including getting about 2k a month for being handicapped for his own personal needs.

You ask what does McCain have to offer you? Well you may be right, but what does Obama have to offer you?

Has he actually explained what he has planned and HOW he plans to achieve these goals and HOW these plans are going to impact other parts of your life? Things are not free my friend. The money has to come from somewhere and I'm willing to bet it will be coming out of your paycheck.

This is the third post where you've ranted just making empty statements. Do you actually know anything about Barack Obama?