Do You Think John McCain Represents â??Changeâ?�?

[dragonrider]

In an election where a vast majority of people think the country is on the wrong track, itâ??s to be expected that politicians will try to present themselves as representing â??change.â?� Barack Obama has presented himself as representing â??change you can believe in.â?� John McCain is in a more difficult position because he is in the incumbent party, but he has countered that he represents the right kind of change.

Some think that John McCain will be a much more bipartisan president than this current administration. Some think that he will be much more moderate as well. Some think he will be a lot more focused and competent in the way he conducts the Iraq war. Some think he will abolish the torture and other abuses of suspected terrorist detainees that have occurred during this administration. Some think he will be more fiscally responsible than the current administration. Some point to a record of campaign finance reform and lobbyist reform and think he will bring greater accountability to our election system.

Others have called just an attempt to jump on the â??changeâ?� bandwagon. Some think John McCain will just continue the same exact polices that the current administration has followed --- some call it George Bushâ??s third term. Some think that all politicians answer to the same masters and nothing ever changes. They donâ??t think a McCain presidency will change anything.

And others have agreed that McCain represents change, but change in the wrong direction. Some believe he is too moderate and represents a change away from conservative principles that they admire in the current administration. Some think his pro-life commitments are not strong enough. Some think his campaign finance and lobbyist reforms go too far. Some question his commitment to a policy of low taxes.

So what do you think? Does John McCain represent change? Also be sure to answer the same question about Barack Obama in the Obama thread. http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/...ts-change.html

dragonrider Reviewed by dragonrider on 06-11-2008. Do You Think John McCain Represents â??Changeâ?�? In an election where a vast majority of people think the country is on the wrong track, itâ??s to be expected that politicians will try to present themselves as representing â??change.â?� Barack Obama has presented himself as representing â??change you can believe in.â?� John McCain is in a more difficult position because he is in the incumbent party, but he has countered that he represents the right kind of change. Some think that John McCain will be a much more bipartisan president than Rating: 5

[psteve]

..."There is a large body of medical opinion that says there is plenty of other medications that are more effective and better and less damaging to one's health to use to relieve pain." â?? April 25, 2007, at Veteran's Park in Manchester, New Hampshire.

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[JeffersonBud]

He creeps me out

[daihashi]

Firstly I think people should be looking at far more reasons than MMJ to vote or not vote for someone. There is much more going on in the world than marijuana. While I don't agree with his stance I feel it's important to develop a stronger dollar. Something I believe Obama is not capable of doing. Even if it is done it will be another bubble just like during the Clinton Administration.

McCain has historically clashed with other republicans due to his moderate views. He is not a typical conservative as everyone would have you believe.

Take a look at his history and voting record. He has been known to show bipartisan support and it is only recently, which if people look beyond what's infront of them then this will be obvious, that he has starting taking more conservative stances.

Of course he's going to change his alignment.. he is trying to win his party over. As it stands right now many of the staunch conservatives do not like McCain. To suggest that he's another George W. Bush when he has decades upon decades showing otherwise is ridiculous.

While I don't think McCain is going to be a great president I have to say I feel he will probably be a stronger President than Obama.

Obama is naive and idealistic. While ideals are great, they only work if you can back them up through experience and hard work; which Obama has displayed that he lacks both (short career and the guy doesn't even show up to vote.)

[dragonrider]

I think John McCain represents a change for the better, but mostly because the Bush admnistration has been SO BAD.

I think McCain would be more bipartisan than Bush in his approach to the opposition party.

I think he would be far more fiscally responsible than Bush, who has nearly bankrupted this country.

I think he would be more competent in conducting the war, even though he doesn't really represent any change in policy on the war. Instead of this half-committed, let-it-bleed Bush appraoch, I think McCain would either go all out, or he would get out.

I prefer McCain's more moderate kind of Republican style over Bush's ultra-conservative style. I think he wouldn't be as beholden to the religious right as Bush was.

I think he would end the torture of suspected terrorists.

At this point I am going to vote for Obama, but I think McCain would represent a positive change away from some of the things I have hated most about the Bush adminstration. He would not be a complete disaster like Bush was.

[daihashi]

I think John McCain represents a change for the better, but mostly because the Bush admnistration has been SO BAD.

I think McCain would be more bipartisan than Bush in his approach to the opposition party.

I think he would be far more fiscally responsible than Bush, who has nearly bankrupted this country.

I think he would be more competent in conducting the war, even though he doesn't really represent any change in policy on the war. Instead of this half-committed, let-it-bleed Bush appraoch, I think McCain would either go all out, or he would get out.

I prefer McCain's more moderate kind of Republican style over Bush's ultra-conservative style. I think he wouldn't be as beholden to the religious right as Bush was.

I think he would end the torture of suspected terrorists.

At this point I am going to vote for Obama, but I think McCain would represent a positive change away from some of the things I have hated most about the Bush adminstration. He would not be a complete disaster like Bush was.

Agreed, but you have to admit it does feel like both candidates are pretty weak

I wish I could've lived in the days when Republicans actually stood for what the Republican party meant and when Democrats did the same.

United we stand? What ever happened to that saying that we stamp on our monetary and is in our pledge of allegiance.

We've strayed so far in such a short time.

[Psycho4Bud]

I put a sticky on your poll for ya.....it'll be lifted either at your request or if 30 days have past with no response.

By the way, great thead!:thumbsup: Should generate some good debate.....

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

I think John McCain represents a change for the better, but mostly because the Bush admnistration has been SO BAD.

I think McCain would be more bipartisan than Bush in his approach to the opposition party.

I think he would be far more fiscally responsible than Bush, who has nearly bankrupted this country.

I think he would be more competent in conducting the war, even though he doesn't really represent any change in policy on the war. Instead of this half-committed, let-it-bleed Bush appraoch, I think McCain would either go all out, or he would get out.

I prefer McCain's more moderate kind of Republican style over Bush's ultra-conservative style. I think he wouldn't be as beholden to the religious right as Bush was.

I think he would end the torture of suspected terrorists.

We agree? I'll be back after I check my pulse...:lol5:

Have a good one!:s4:

[dragonrider]

I put a sticky on your poll for ya.....it'll be lifted either at your request or if 30 days have past with no response.

By the way, great thead!:thumbsup: Should generate some good debate.....

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Thanks! I think we'll get some good discussion out of these.

[dragonrider]

We agree? I'll be back after I check my pulse...:lol5:

Have a good one!:s4:

Ha ha! I hope you recover from your heart attack! Remember, Barack Obama has a plan to be sure you have the health insurance you need!

Seriously though, I'm pretty middle-of-the-road on a lot of issues, and McCain is more moderate than he will protray himself for the election. I can respect him and see his good sides. But I'm supporting Obama, so that's probably the last time you'll hear me say anything like that until after McCain concedes in November!