Quote Originally Posted by daihashi
No offense, but you just copy pasted directly from barack obama's website without any backing or explanation of your own.

Barack Obama wants to place I think something in the tune of 3.5% - 4% payroll/income tax to the people... Taxing more of our income while we're already in an economic downturn with inflated oil prices and getting burned at the pumps and really in all markets everywhere. Please keep in mind that some employers don't even offer insurance but yet they are going to get taxed anyway. That is what universal means.. EVERYONE. If a company does not comply with this they will be charging them the cost.

Guess what, the employer is going to roll over that cost onto the people by either charging for it or layoffs.

And the small business that will remain exempt from this will still end up with it's employees not having health care.

Will you be one of the people that's laid off? Or will you simply be one of the people who's losing 4% more of their income along with other tax hikes that he's sure to put in place.

This is a man that says he's fine with the oil price increase. He does not mind it! In a time when our economy is in a downturn and people need more money in their pockets.. he's just going to take it away.

Now then back to your post, which wasn't really a post but more of a copy paste that you could've just done last night. Especially considering it's right there on his website or could be found with a 5 second google search.

I asked you if you knew what.. and How he was going to do it.. and I asked for an explanation of how this is going to impact the American people. You've at least already answered the What, but that question has been touched on slightly from at least 2 other posters. So this information is not something new.

Really what I'm trying to do here is just get people to think. I don't mean this in a rude gesture, more as a friendly American gesture.

Regardless of anyone's political stance I would like to see more Americans simply not fall pray for the media masses that like to lead the people as if they were sheep or cattle.


ps: many of mccains and obama's ideas actually overlap. Did you even notice that? Would you rather lose 3-5% of your income or would you rather the government just give you the money that's needed for insurance and put the power IN YOUR hands.

This is just another example about how the democrats generally want to take away our right to choose.

pss: Obama is not exactly poor. He and his wife had a combined *reported* income of $984k in 2006... he received a book advance for 1.9 million dollars and In 2005, shortly after Obama had been elected to the Senate, his wife recieved a pay raise increase taking her from $121,910 in 2004 to $316,962 in 2005. Keep in mind that this is shortly after Obama was elected into office. Coincidence, maybe.. but the timing is too close for it to just be coincidence. In addition to this it is interesting to note that both Barack Obama and his Wife hold major disdain towards the health care system but still have no problems participating in the abuse.

Why not turn the pay raise down?

Obama is not as poor as you'd like to believe.

These were only reported incomes. Who knows what he's getting on the side.

Don't fall into the hype!
Those employers that you are are going to get taxed for failing to provide a health insurance plan are also those same companies that would receive incentives if they were to implement one. I don't see any logical fallacy in that. We are moving in a direction where socio-economical business models thrive. It's been proven that in the long-run it helps businesses.

All and all, there aren't major differences between McCain and Obama's plans. Obama wants more regulation and oversight, McCain wants to use market forces more, but all and all, either plan will end up raising taxes. I'm not sure how McCain will dole out a $2500 tax credit without sacrificing (or raising) something.

McCain's plan has some good ideas like the tax-credit incentive to be used to purchase any insurance company of your choice. If there was middle ground between Obama's and McCain's health, it'd be a sound plan.