Do You Think Barack Obama Represents â??Changeâ?�?

[daihashi]

I guess I'm not really sure what you are asking me. I thought you said that all Obama ever says is he is going to bring "change," but he never says what he is going to change. I replied that in the case of healthcare these are the changes he proposes:

Here is a quote from me since you seem to be confused for what I'm asking:

I ask you again, What is Obama's plan and please explain to me why it is good. What the benefits and negatives of it are?

I would like to know how he's going to do it, why it's a good plan and what are the draw backs.

From another post I made in this thread

Please explain to me what he has proposed in DETAIL and how he plans to achieve it IN DETAIL..

And yet another post I made in this thread

Obama has actually said nothing except for "change" and "hope". Change and hope don't mean anything, they are just words. If you explain what you plan to change and how you plan to change it then you are actually saying something that MIGHT be worth listening too.

And here is the original post I made asking the question:

But what will he change and how will he change it?

As you can see since people seem to either ignore or be oblivious to what I'm asking I've gone through and bolded parts of my quotes.

Everyone here has failed to answer my question.

In regards to the following:

If healthcare is an area of interest for you, go ahead and look up more information about it and post back what you think Obama's plans mean, and while you are at it, post McCain's plans if he has any.

I've already done this in the Mccain thread in detail which did take some time. I'm not going to do it again. If you're interested you can take a look over in that thread.

McCain outlines his plan and tells you HOW he's going to make it happen.

Obama has said how, but my point this entire time is that Obama supporters cannot tell me HOW he's going to support the changes he proposes.

And as I mentioned before, I am not an expert on healthcare policy, so I'm not really interested in debating it with you. I provided the examples as a way to counter the argument that Obama doesn't offer ideas, and I picked healthcare because there are plenty of examples and BigWeed was asking about it.

For someone who's not interested in healthcare you seem to want to argue this debate whole heartedly. You did provide examples to half the question but failed to answer the other half.. Even when you answer that other half I still have yet ANOTHER question for you. I have thought this very far into the future.

I don't feel Obama offers ideas. He offers half-hearted answers that will just give the American people what they want to hear. No one seems to realize that in actuality it is much more difficult to do what he proposes than the way he makes it sound... furthermore the way he plans on getting the money will directly effect the Job Employment rate in a negative way.

and post back what you think Obama's plans mean, and while you are at it

Sorry. I'm not giving anyone in this thread a free pass. I do know Obama's plans and how he plans to achieve them. I see the negatives and the few positives of it. I've even given hints as to how he plans to make the changes in hopes that some Obama supporter would speak up.

Everyone has sat silently when I ask them HOW. What and HOW are linked together. You can't say what you plan to do without saying how you plan to do it.. in addition after that is said you have to make it evident how it will effect the American people, for good and for bad.

No one here has said anything.. I've only received mediocre answers explaining what he plans to change.

Without all 3, I'm sorry but as I said before in the following quote:

Obama has actually said nothing except for "change" and "hope". Change and hope don't mean anything, they are just words. If you explain what you plan to change and how you plan to change it then you are actually saying something that MIGHT be worth listening too.

The determining factor if the plan is worthwhile is listening after the above has been satisfied would be to determine the IMPACT would be to the American People.

Again no one here has answered my Question. I feel that thcbongman has come the closest to giving me a legitimate response in the Obama vs McCain debate.. Even then I still only agree with it half way.. or slightly less than half way.

All the other posts I've seen have failed to answer the questions I'm posing or have failed to put up a good comparison between Obama and McCain

It's evident to me that everytime I ask an Obama supporter why they support Obama they say because he's going to change the government. Then I proceed to ask them what is he going to change... generally around here they kind of stumble but they manage to say something.... either Iraq, or the economy or something similar. So then I ask them again how is he going to do that... No one has been able to move beyond this question.

Please read that and I think you'll find the core point I'm actually trying to get at by asking these questions.

If not maybe P4B or someone else who might realize what I'm getting at can chime in and explain; but I myself am not handing out a free pass.

It's cliche but knowledge is power.