View Poll Results: Do You Think Barack Obama Represents Change?
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Obama represents a change for the better.
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Obama represents no change at all.
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Obama represents a change for the worse.
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06-13-2008, 02:44 AM #11
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Do You Think Barack Obama Represents ??Change??
I believe the first change Obama will make is like Arnie in Calif.: He'll have to have his cigarette smoking room, latest is: he can't change his smoking habit! If he can't change himself and he so deperately states he wants and tries to--what can he change for us! Arnie built a cigar smoking shak in CA capital at his own expense. Then set off fire
sprinklers, etc. flooded the capital's first floor and parking lots--taxpayers had to pay for that.
What change did Obama bring for Illinois? Said he supported lowering gas prices, but people did not get lower gas price, the distributors took the profit. So, he did not think the plan out completely as to who would have to make up for the break and pay for it. So, it did not work. Well, it never got fixed, but he tried. So, will he represent change or trying and in so doing, making it worse. I think most Presidents are benign, it is the way our system is designed that is malignant! That is where we need change. For substantial, permanent change. The Senate and Congress! Every election is important. You must vote every time and on every issue, provide you understand it and if you cannot and try, don't!
Seriously, I was involved in JFK from nomination on; very interesting as a child.He was change; Every political platform is for change-new day, different words!
Change really happens in the Senate and Congress and if we take those elections any less serious than the president, we are foolish.
The most dramatic change I have seen is Nixon. like him or not: He did end Viet Nam. I attended many of my friends funerals then. Nothing like Iraq. Now, if he does something like that-sure that is a true change. I will not forget the day our guys got to come home from Viet Nam, Canada and everywhere else they fled to avoid the draft.
To change the climate of the nation, it takes more than someone sitting in a big white house smoking cigarettes consumed with inexperience to really make long lasting economical changes that we all so desperately need! If he does make great change, it will depend a lot on the people that are in the cabinet; congress and senate.
One way or another, it will be a change; Even if it is just ethnic! It will instill some hope for some, in one way or another and hope for all that Bush is gone with his dictorial type of presidency. His father wasn't even that bold and lost re-election. Maybe people liked a Czar type thing, but they are now tired of it. So, change, is it us who change our views or the president changing our views by what he says or tries to do?
We were upset on 9/11. If my insurance Co. cheated me in a settlement and it was wrong, do I go kill them. We have paid more innocent lives for 9/11 than it took. But, it was never about 9/11 anyway, just a good excuse to do what our czar planned. People loved it! Who knows what is right or wrong in the world scheme of things. Is Bush a good man. I am sure he and his family think so. Was he good for the nation. Well, maybe he is the reason this election is so popular! Once you eat beans for a long time then have steak, which would you prefer. A vegan, beans!
Change of the man or the real things that matter, health care has a solution, it may not
be socialized medicine, that would suck, I feel, but we knew the economic backbone of this nation wad going when, just like the Oil Co., Emeron and Insurance have all been allowed to price so high no one can afford the living they had with the ceiling on wages! Change, would be to increase wages, consistant with costs and interest rates. when the cost of living goes up over 9% and you can't even get 2% on your savings acct. that is wrong. I don't know how many of you remember, I use to get interest on my checking acct., instead of paying to let them use my money. The interest was around 8% or better. I actually made money on my checking acct.
The informed and educated that really care about planet Earth, economy, justice, war, peace, civil liberty, etc. I do not feel he has a lot to do with it! As bush tried to change the (I'd like to say 10 commandments) but I mean constitution, he could not and thank God!
The middle East problems, have been as old as time, blame Clinton or whomever you please, until they stop having religious wars there, they will always fight! In Iraq, we got into that with Reagan and maybe before, but I am not a history major and that is as far as I remember we did over there! We had a lot of little wars that went unnoticed with Clinton. I think Bosnia and dare I try to crack my brain open, I might find the others.
If you really study the '60's or lived it; you may see, as I do; same broken policies and a lot of Presidents later, we have not had change, as one person said; they go on a Pendulum. What goes up must come down or disappear, I guess!
The debt of the nation; Well, savings is when you decrease the rate of which you are rapidly going into debt by offsetting it. In doing so, you decrease the rate with which you go bankrupt and eventually pull out of it! We would need to see the U.S. Treasury reports from 2001 until now (with Iraq) to really see the spending difference! I do know, if the funds had not been taken from the U.S. Army Corp. of Engineers and diverted to Iraq, Katrina would not have happened (but who cries over spilled milK). Funds for Social Security got so tight with this Iraq war, there were new policies in place for SSI and SSD. Many were taken off and it is too hard to get on without going to court now. We have taken funds from everything that matter to us as individuals to pay for this war.
n take it on a smaller scale. Calif. was in an economic mess, Arnie came along, let's consolidate and start all over. Well we did and now we do do! Meaning, he is looking for a way to pay off all the debt that kept growing and did not stop! Calif. is now in just as bad, if not, worse shape than when he took over, and we still have the debt he started with, set aside and not being paid!
Sure Obama is change! That is my answer. They all are! As psteve said; check your pocket and I believe that will be my gauge!
whew, didn't know I really had any strong feelings about it. But tired of hearing change and the only change I've seen is: from my pocket to the gov't and more of it. The penny costs more than a penny to make and we still make it! Nickel is no longer of nickel and the silver coins are not of silver! I did not vote on the McDrain, because too many times they run on one issue and do another. So, I won't vote on the Osama one either. I'll wait and see.
I guess we need to ask Oprah? I do think our liberties are going the wrong direction! If that changes, I guess I'll be happy. What has been screwed with for decades to make better is only getting worse. I don't remember, but one guy has a signature that says it all. We fight for freedom and then legislate our freedom away--or something like that!
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