View Poll Results: Do You Think Barack Obama Represents Change?
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Obama represents a change for the better.
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06-14-2008, 06:30 AM #11
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Do You Think Barack Obama Represents ??Change??
Well, the details were in the upper portion of my post you quoted. Here it is again.
Originally Posted by daihashi
The key points to me were that it creates a group healthcare plan that people can purchase --- solves the problem of not having access to group healthcare for those who do not get it through their jobs.
Originally Posted by dragonrider
Eligibility is guaranteed --- solves the problem that people have when they try to buy individual, private, non-group insurance of having to qualify and being denied for pre-exisitng conditions.
It is subsidised for those who meet certain income requirements --- solves the problem of affordability for those who want insurance but cannot afford it.
It is portable --- solves the problem of people not being able to make other life choices like changing jobs, moving to new cities or getting a divorce for fear of losing insurance.
Those are the main problems people have with healthcare --- they aren't offered group insurance, they aren't eligible for non-group insurance, they can't afford insurance, and they can't take their existing insurance with them. It looks to me like this plan covers those main issues. Has McCain offered any ideas on these problems? Has he only offered vague ideas of "change" or, like Bush, not even that? People aren't satisfied with things as they are with regard to these issues.
Anyway, those are the details that I found. If that is not enough detail for you and you want to drill further into it, I've given you enough to get started on your legwork.
I'm not really speaking for BigWeed, so if you have a question for him, address it to him. I did pick the healthcare toipic to rebut the idea that Obama has not provided any details for any of the issues he wants to "change" because BigWeed had expressed concern about his own healthcare problems. Healthcare is not really my strong point, but BigWeed seemed interested in the topic, and it seems like there is enough detail there to show that Obama has offered more than to just "change" healthcare.
Originally Posted by daihashi
My feelings on the tax issue is that I favor fiscal responsibility over low taxes. Republicans used to stand for a balanced budget and fiscal responsibility, but they traded that for low taxes. I don't see how Democrats get painted with this phoney "tax and spend" label. Both parties have a record of spending, but the biggest increases in spending have come under Reagan and under Bush. And both of them did not take responsibility for that added spending. They cut taxes, while spending more. Democrats are just more responsible than Republicans about their spending. Democrats at least make some effort to have the money before they spend it. This Republican pattern of cutting taxes while raising spending and running our debt through the roof will eventually ruin this country. Personally, I am in favor of most of the priorities on which Obama has proposed spending so far, so I guess since I am a responsible person, I will be have to be willing to pay my part. I certainly do favor that over continuing to run the country deeper into debt.
Originally Posted by daihashi
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