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I think Barack Obama definitely represents change, and I think it will be for the better.
We disagree already....like Carter, this "would" definately be a change for the worse.

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Environmental issues are very important to me. Out current adminstration has worked hard to WEAKEN environmental protections and has worked AGAINST my state's efforts to address environmental issues. I think Obama will focus on environmental issues that have been ignored by this current administration.
GREAT...so much for nuclear power or drilling for oil in the U.S.. Building additional refineries....what about the one tooth chipmunk that might be affected? So much for additional power resources. I'm sure when we split from Iraq that 2.5 mill. barrels/day won't effect the price of oil either. Just saw a poll that stated 61% of Americans want us to drill the hell out of Anwar for oil...and other sites in the U.S.; can't do that when we are protecting our enviroment with a "green" hand.

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I think Obama will improve the perception of the US around the world. Bush has destroyed our image internationally, and Obama will restore that.
Explain how? IF he was to pull out of Iraq he'd lose any respect from any country in that region. Likewise with our allie Israel. Do you think that this would gain the respect of China OR Russia...hell no. If improving the perception means that we turn into a nation of runners that leaves our allies hanging...then I'd have to agree with ya. Not something I'd call for "the good".

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I think Obama will restore some individual constitutional rights that have been trampeled upon by the Bush administration.
And when there is a terrorist strike in our borders then he can blame it on Bush for stirring the world pot or not going after Al-Quada...how many Al-Quada in Iraq are left as compared to the ones sent to Allah? How many terrorist attacks have happened since 9-11? What major changes have you had to make in your life since your constitutional rights have been trampled on? What party is behind the "no smoking" policies that trample on alot of our rights?

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I think Obama will bring back the fiscal responsibility that Bush lacked. Bush inherited a budget surplus, gave it all away as tax cuts, and drove this country deeper into debt than it has ever been before. Obama will get us back on track.
9-11, Katrina, the Afghan war, Iraq war...but this surplus would have remained with a Dem? I suppose it could have if handled like either Carter or Clinton..."BAD OSAMA! Now don't do that again ya hear?"

And if anyone thinks that free healthcare, college and all the rest of the empty promises like pulling out of Iraq is going to save money they really need to take a look at the costs and ask themselves where this cash will come from: higher taxes OR a larger budget deficit?

Remember, this is the same Jr. Senator that has racked up more than $200,000,000 in earmarks in 3 years.

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Obama will definitely change the direction of the Iraq war. But I'm not sure if I agree with everything he has said about how he will handle it. I think out of necessity his strategy will have to be more nuanced than it has been in the primaries. I think he is smart enought not to do something totally stupid, but this is one area where I'm not sure I agree with all the changes he has proposed so far. And i'm not sure he would even be able to accomplish all the changes he has proposed for the war even if he wanted too.
I ask this question frequently but seem to NEVER get a response. How many troops will it take to protect over 100,000 civilian workers, our diplomats, Embassy, and the Iraqi nationals that were loyal to us? As stated in a debate, this is his plan...the rest of the personnel won't be coming home but instead will be based out of Kuwait...just incase Al-Quada returns or our troops remaining are getting slaughtered.

Another issue is the "genocide" in Somalia he promised to cure. How many troops will that take? And while we're in Africa why not help our his cousin in Kenya?

Anybody can talk it up about "change" but without the full support of congress and senate the president is very limited in what "change" he can really do. Obama has NEVER reached across the aisle in order to make concessions...how much of his plan does anyone think he could really accomplish?

The rational part of me wants McCain to win for obvious reasons and the other part wants Obama for the Med. M.J. and also to see all the lil' dems cry when they face double digit inflation, unemployment, and interest rates just like in the days of good ol' J. Carter.

Have a good one!:s4: