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    McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter

    McCain: Obama means 2nd Carter term

    June 09, 2008 From NBC's Mark Murray

    In an interview to air later tonight on Nightly News, McCain tells NBC's Brian Williams that while Obama might criticize him for representing a third Bush term, Obama seems to be running for a second Carter term. Part of the transcript...

    Williams: Is it going to be tough to run with an incumbent party for the White House, given this economic backdrop?

    McCain: I-- I think it's-- it's tough. But I think the American didn't, people didn't get to know me yesterday. They know me. They know that I have fought for restraining spending, which Senator Obama has been a big part of, with earmarking (UNINTEL) projects. They know that I have been a strong fiscal conservative, and they know I understand the challenges that they face.

    They need a little break from-- from their gasoline taxes, and they -- and they know that -- we've got to get spending under control. And we've got to become independent of foreign oil. Sen. Obama says that I'm running for a Bush's third terms. It seems to me he's running for Jimmy Carter's second. (LAUGHTER)

    McCain: Obama means 2nd Carter term - First Read - msnbc.com
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    McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter

    June 09, 2008 7:45 PM

    ABC News' Bret Hovell Reports: Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., opened up a new line of attack on presidential rival Barack Obama Monday night â?? tying the Illinois Democrat to former President Jimmy Carter, a one term president who battled low approval ratings.

    "Senator Obama says that Iâ??m running for [President George W.] Bush's third term," McCain told NBC News's Brian Williams, alluding to a line of attack that Democrats have launched against the Arizona Republican. "It seems like Barack Obama is running for Jimmy Carterâ??s second."

    The idea that Obama is similar to Carter is one that has been percolating in conservative circles for a few weeks. And earlier Monday at a fundraiser in Richmond, Va., McCain backer Lawrence Eagleburger brought it to the Senatorâ??s attention by directly suggesting he make that comparison.

    "I do have a suggestion," the former Secretary of State said to a room full of McCain donors. "It occurs to me that the Democratic candidate does remind me a great deal of Jimmy Carter. And perhaps we should make that identification stick."

    McCain, it seems, agreed. When asked in the NBC News interview why he made the comparison, McCain criticized Obamaâ??s economic plan as being like the former Presidentâ??s.

    "Because spend, spend, tax, spend. Heâ??s got a proposal that willâ?¦ raise spending by $1.4 dollars over 10 years, thereâ??s no way to pay for those programs," McCain said.

    Political Radar: McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter
    Breukelen advocaat Reviewed by Breukelen advocaat on . McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter McCain: Obama means 2nd Carter term June 09, 2008 From NBC's Mark Murray In an interview to air later tonight on Nightly News, McCain tells NBC's Brian Williams that while Obama might criticize him for representing a third Bush term, Obama seems to be running for a second Carter term. Part of the transcript... Williams: Is it going to be tough to run with an incumbent party for the White House, given this economic backdrop? McCain: I-- I think it's-- it's tough. But I think Rating: 5

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    McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter

    Holy Crap!


    That's what I've been saying over here all along! McCain is absolutely right. Mr.Peanut and Obama are two very, very liberal men.

    Tax, Tax, Tax

    Give, give, give (to anyone with their hand out)

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    McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter

    True analogy or not, I still think most of us would like a 2nd Jimmy Carter presidency than a 3rd George W... :hippy:

    DrSpiggity

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    McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    "Because spend, spend, tax, spend. Heâ??s got a proposal that willâ?¦ raise spending by $1.4 dollars over 10 years, thereâ??s no way to pay for those programs," McCain said.
    Well, if it's only going to cost an extra buck forty over ten years, I think we'll find a way. Hell, I'll kick in at least half that myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrSpoof
    True analogy or not, I still think most of us would like a 2nd Jimmy Carter presidency than a 3rd George W... :hippy:

    DrSpiggity
    Very true. I don't think the label is going to stick, but even if it came down to an election between Jimmy Carter versus George Bush, at this point Carter would win in a landslide.

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    McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonrider
    Very true. I don't think the label is going to stick, but even if it came down to an election between Jimmy Carter versus George Bush, at this point Carter would win in a landslide.
    Hrm.. I don't know:

    In the early 90's Carter went to North Korea to make a deal with then dictator Kim Il Sung. He did this without the approval of then President Clinton, to exchange aid, oil and material to help them build a nuclear reactor for energy.. All this in exchange for them dropping their nuclear program. In 2002 N. Korea announced that it never stopped it's program. Thanks Carter for acting on your own and costing the US time and money. Not to mention risk world safety. We practically handed them nuclear technology. GREAT MOVE.

    In the late 70s Carter had really screwed up. I'm not sure how many here are familiar about the situation in Iran at this time. But Carter shying away from the Shah in this area led to the Islamic revolution we see today. This also at the time led indirectly to the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan.. which further led to the creation of Al Queda. Combine this with the botched Iranian hostage crisis in 1979 and it's pretty easy to see that Carter was pretty friggin busy screwing things up in this region of the world.

    In addition Carter he was at least partly responsible for the worst economic downturn since WWII and was known to side/support with dictators... examples:

    Philippine dictator Fernando Marcos
    Pakistani General Zia al Huq
    Saudi King Faud
    (if you'd like explanation why these men were bad then I'd be more than happy to explain further).

    He has been quoted as saying that Marshal Josef Tito "is a man who believes in human rights." For those of you that don't know Marshal Josef Tito was an extreme follower of Joseph Stalin. He was positioned in Yugoslavia. Joseph Stalin was anything but a human rights activist. :P

    I mean even today.. he is not a current president or even holding any office that I'm aware of yet he is constantly meddling in US foreign affairs without the approval of the president or anyone in the US government.

    He has been continually setting the United States back ever since his term ended.

    With all that said... I'd have to say President Carter and George Bush are at opposite ends of the spectrum, but oddly enough at the same time they are like two peas in a pod. Therefore people would probably be looking elsewhere for another nominee. Hell maybe the Independant or Libertarian party would get a shot then. lol

    Ironic isn't it.. 30 years later and we find ourselves in a pretty similar situation?


    both presidents are equally as crappy.

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    McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter

    Quote Originally Posted by daihashi
    both presidents are equally as crappy.
    Well, I think you are probably right there. My comment was more of joke about how bad I view Bush to be --- the idea that even an unpopular president like Jimmy Carter could beat him.

    To the point of the thread, I think McCain is going to have trouble getting any traction with the idea that Obama is the same as Carter, while Obama will have no problem at all linking McCain to Bush.

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    McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonrider
    I think McCain is going to have trouble getting any traction with the idea that Obama is the same as Carter, while Obama will have no problem at all linking McCain to Bush.
    You hit the nail on the head.

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    McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter

    Carter linked Ford to Nixon.

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    McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp
    Carter linked Ford to Nixon.
    Not hard to do either considering the way the Watergate scandal turned out with Ford giving a full pardon. Linking McCain to Bush will be a hell of alot harder considering these two past historys with each other.

    Now linking Obama with racists and a terrorist will be EASY.

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    McCain Compares Obama to Jimmy Carter

    Just visited an AOL website poll that showed Obama 46% to McCain 54%.

    Obama only carrying the states of WA, OR, CA, IL, NY, CT, MD and DC..... I believe it.

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