Help with new HYDRO setup...suggestions

[HyDrO ViSiOnZ]

Hmmm. Thanks for your suggestions but let me do some more explaining and then get back to me. Each hut is only 3.5ftx3.5ftx7
I dont think much would come from the light being moved 2 inches each way.

Each hut us in oppisite of itself.
One hut is on from 4 in the morning until 4 in the afternoon. At that time a my flop is engaged and the other hut turns on. One Ballast running 24 hours,= 2 rooms at 12/12 and cheaper at least in my area.

HyDrO ViSiOnZ Reviewed by HyDrO ViSiOnZ on 07-03-2008. Help with new HYDRO setup...suggestions Just like everyone else here I want to maximize my yield. I dont want to be always flowering a plant so the bigger the yield the more time i have where my room is running just mothers...Saves me money.. This is what i have. Please let me know what you would do if you were in my shoes. I have a 3.5x3.5 x 7 tall grow tebt. Aircooled 300cfm hood, and a 3x3 table with 40 gal rez. Carbon filter and circ fan. Using latewoods recipe. I have both a 1000w ballast and 600w ballast and hotilux Rating: 5

[ToKAlot]

Sounds lik you hav a nic setup the light cycle you hav is nice might hav to build another room and do that but just to let you know about the hydroton you hav to flush the hell out of it then soak it in (PH)ed water for awhile it gav me alot of trouble!!!But keep us posted and try and get som pics up!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::rastasmoke:

[LOC NAR on probation]

Your getting some very good help. Listen to them.

One thing. I always wanted co2 and will get it when I'm clear of the law.
BUT PLEASE don't use it in or near a human living area. Co2 is heavier than air and can fill up a room, push all o2 out and drowned you. Other than death it's great. We had a bad time with a bro of mine. I just did get him before he bit the big one. Try to explain that at a hospital.

[stinkyattic]

Good point LocNar. Same with any DIY ozone generator. Both are deadly in the wrong situation, or if a timer fails, or even if the grower makes a mistake.
I finally set up a CO2 system when I put my grow in the basement. I don't think I'd be comfortable with it in a living space.

[HyDrO ViSiOnZ]

Not going to run co2 this time around. Which is why i decided to drop the 600 back in there to help with any heat. Can someone give me some info on my table set up. With a 40 gal rez do i need to fill it up with all 40. I guess im confused when people say waterfarms are better. THen why do people do tables? I mean you have to yield more otherwise your throwing money down the drain on nutes. I mean with a 40 gal rez i would use a full gallon of sweet in a full grow(if i was using sweet this time...just an example)

And yes thank your all for making this a great discussion. any input is welcome and apperciated..

SMOKE ONE :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Waterfarms are ideal for large plants. Growers who have to submit to inspections to check their plant count benefit greatly from flowering fewer, but larger, plants.
More, but smaller, plants make for a higher g/w/month number over ALL your watts, because the time component of that formula relates only to time spent in flower. So if you flower newly-rooted clones, the time spent in veg (not counted towards your ultimate yield) is minimized. Many, if not most, cash croppers run trays of small plants or some other SOG type arrangement, whereas most medical growers would tell you to give enough veg time to make each plant yield a bumper crop on its own.

With a 40 gallon res, fill it up all the way, add your calmag and base nutes, and check the pH and Ec. IF you start with a quality nutrient, that large volume works in your favor in a big way- you will find it to stay very stable over time. Sure, you are using a lot of ferts, but you get it back in yield.

'Better' is all relative to your goals, and to your space/time/startup budget restrictions.

[HyDrO ViSiOnZ]

Stinky,
Thank you for the advice and feedback. your opinion is highly valued.

I am using the GH line grow micro bloom and im going to add some kool bloom at the end with latewoods reciepe. With the 40 gal rez does the rule of thumb of every 7days stay in effect for complete water changes. What would be a good plant number for a sog. I was going to do nine all at one time but isnt sog when you add more plants every week until you start harvesting your first ones?


Yes i do have Cal mag and liquid karma. I also was thinking of adding some sensizym or something of that nature.

[stinkyattic]

I am not familiar enough with Latewood's recipe to give advice on it, sorry.

For a true SOG you start all your plants at the same time and harvest them all at once, keeping them all the same size. They should be all the same strain in each tray/res unit. What you are thinking of is a perpetual crop. Depending on your tray size and how much veg time you want to allow, you just have to decide on your medium and style- so if you do a containerized ebb n flow in 6" pots, in a 3x3 tray, you would fit 36 little rooted clones in your tray. IF you decide on gallon pots, give a couple weeks of veg time but do 16 or 25 in that same tray.

There's a sticky in 'basic' about the continuous canopy, that applies to SOGs of all types.

[elskeetro]

You don't necessarily have to replace the solution every seven days. But do keep track of how long between changes.

here's the rule you should go by (dug out of latewood's recipe thread):

Do a full reservoir change. you have a 40 gal res? lets say you fill it to the top with 40 gallons just for the sake of ease. you'll no doubt be doing top offs along the way. Let's just say every 3 days you have to add 5 gallons of water. Well once you add a total of 40 gallons it's time to change the entire reservoir.

That's not the optimum situation. but it'll work. Just keep track of what week you are on and make sure you are giving them the right dosage of nutes as outlined in latewood's thread.

make sense?

cool.
Skeet

[HyDrO ViSiOnZ]

Stinky: you finally gave me the answer i had been looking for. It just didnt make sense to me to only to do 9 or so when they are that small. I was thinking 18 in 1 gal pots so i think i am going to go that way. I will post pics tonight.
Once again thank you for chiming in and i hope you stay tuned.
Just like the stoner guy in the movie cant hardly wait said about wilma flinstone .." Your a hip............................hip lady"



Skeet: That totally makes sense. But i do have a question that has been on my mind regarding top offs.
On the bottle of Nutes they clearly state not to premix and then add to your rez. In latewoods thread i think he said he was dipping a 5 gal bucket in and then mixing everything and then dumping the 5 gal mix back in. With top offs is it safer to top off the rez then add my cal mag and karma or do it the way latewood is doing it.?

You guys are awsome thanks for all your suggestions i feel intrest has been shown so I will be posting pics tonight:jointsmile::thumbsup::hippy: