[quote=Dream of the iris]
lol calm down dude, its a debate not a fight here. Alright lets see here:
I wasn't aware I wasn't calm or fighting. Please let me know your technique to determine a persons demeanor across the internet as you seem to have mastered it. Yes that was sarcasm.

If you were referring to the 80 percentile to be Americans then sure, but essentially we're talking about a foreign country. Who cares if 80 percent want change. If they want it then their either gonna have to go through bloodshed or deal with it. I don't wanna have to suffer because some poor people in Iran thousands of miles away are suffering.
Why would I be talking about 80 percent of americans when we are obviously talking about Iran. I never said that we should go to war with Iran. If that remark wasn't directed at me then why quote it? Maybe I misunderstand your intentions but it seems that you are implying that I think we should go to war when I've said the opposite.


You're right in the sense that I'm acting a little presumpious considering no course of action has yet to be taken but the way things are looking one can certainly say that it is in the realm of possibilities. Depending on what happens depends on what it will be like you're right, however, someone who is intelligent will at least attempt to draw out all of the likely scenarios as to plan ahead to make sure everything goes as smoothly as possible. I'm not saying its definitive but thats just one of the likely scenarios that could unfold as time progresses.
Actually with the way that things are going I would say it is probably one of the least likely possibilities. We've just pseudo gotten out of war. George W. Bush has the longest disapproval rating ever in the history of the office. Combine that with a Democrat controlled House, massive amount of debt and the amount of military we would have to redeploy and I would say it's a safe bet that we will not go to war with Iran. Especially when there is still a mess in Iraq.

No candidate is going to make a decision right now in regards to Iran. It's too early for them to take a definitive stance on the matter. With a general population who is tired of the war in Iraq I would have to say that whoever is elected is going to opt to stay out of Iran after seeing Bush's popularity plummet and go crashing through the ground. No one is going to risk their chances at re-election unless absolutely necessary

Oh really? So then please enlighten everyone on this forum as to how America could possibly put a Shah in place when there is already a government set in place that will do everything in their best interest to stay in power. I mean there's a possibility to avoid a war, but it's going to be very hard and more than likely there's gonna be some conflict going on over there involving some bloodshed.
I suppose you've never read anything through out history about countries backing nations of interest with Rebels and to overthrow their own government? You've never heard of covert ops or assassinations? It happens. While I don't necessarily agree with disrupting a government in place I do believe in helping the people to help themselves.

Your bit of sarcasm at the beginning of this statement is condescending and not appreciated. Instead of just stating your opinions they would be better served if you would back them with political and military reasoning or even use a reference from history to back it.

Statements with no content behind them are exactly what they sound like.. empty and without value.

Lastly, I never said you were a supporter of Obama I was just pointing this out to the other members who were supporters of him.
Point taken