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    Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton's Tears from Obama's Church's Pulpit

    Father Michael Pfleger, a fiery liberal social activist and a white reverend at an African-American church -- St. Sabina??s Catholic Church on the South Side of Chicago -- is a longtime friend and associate of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, having known him since the presidential hopeful was a community activist. In September, the Obama campaign brought Pfleger to Iowa to host one of several interfaith forums for the campaign.

    Their relationship spans decades. Pfleger has given money to Obama's campaigns and Obama as a state legislator directed at least $225,000 towards social programs at St. Sabina's, according to the Chicago Tribune.

    A new Youtube video making the rounds shows Pfleger speaking at Obama's church, Trinity United Church of Christ, just last Sunday, mocking Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, for having cried in New Hampshire, suggesting that she wept because she thought as a white person and wife of a former president she was entitled to the presidency.

    In response to the sermon, Obama issued a statement saying: ??As I have traveled this country, I've been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger's divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn't reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause.?

    This is what Obama was responding to: After being introduced by Obama's church's new pastor -- Rev. Otis Moss -- Rev. Pfleger talks about the importance of taking on "white entitlement and supremacy wherever it raises its head."

    "Rev. Moss, when Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on, I really don't believe it was put on," Pfleger says from the pulpit. "I really believe that she just always thought, 'This is mine! I'm Bill's wife, I'm white, and this is mine! I just gotta get up and step into the plate.' And then out of nowhere came, 'Hey, I'm Barack Obama,' and she said, 'Oh, damn! Where did you come from? I'm white! I'm entitled! There's a black man stealing my show!'

    Pfleger then mocks her crying, much to delight of the crowd, many of whom stand up and applaud.

    "She wasn't the only one crying, there was a whole lot of white people crying!" Pfleger says to laughter.


    The tape, which just shows this one controversial part of Pfleger's sermon, then cuts to Moss thanking Pfleger: "We thank God for the message, we thank God for the messenger, we thank God for Father Michael Pfleger," Moss says.

    The New York Times recently described Father Pfleger as having "long worked with South Side political leaders to reduce crime and improve the community. But he has drawn fire from some quarters for defending the Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and inviting him to speak at his church."
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    Obama Again Apologizes for a Preacher

    "As I have traveled this country, I've been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger's divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn't reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause," Obama said in a statement first posted by the Chicago Sun Times.

    Pfleger issued this response: "I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama's life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them."
    Obama Again Apologizes for a Preacher | The Trail | washingtonpost.com

    So this makes what...two preachers and an ex-terrorist that he's had to apologize for and he's STILL A MEMBER of the church that preaches racist crap.

    I don't buy it!
    Birds of a feather flock together

    Have a good one!:s4:
    Psycho4Bud Reviewed by Psycho4Bud on . Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton's Tears from Obama's Church's Pulpit Father Michael Pfleger, a fiery liberal social activist and a white reverend at an African-American church -- St. Sabina??s Catholic Church on the South Side of Chicago -- is a longtime friend and associate of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, having known him since the presidential hopeful was a community activist. In September, the Obama campaign brought Pfleger to Iowa to host one of several interfaith forums for the campaign. Their relationship spans decades. Pfleger has given money to Rating: 5

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    Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton's Tears from Obama's Church's Pulpit

    P4B your right but most church leaders spew out crap all the time look at swaggert look at falwell look at McCains preacher their all fucking ignorant idiots.I dont know why people take these guys seriously cause they are all preaching for money and doing really well for themselves.Even though i dont go to church i wonder what Jesus Christ would think about these guys who preach his gospel because JC was a poor man who helped the poor and the destitute and never once lived like a rich man and im sure he could off lived really well by performing miracles on people but thats not what he was about.Not like these fake preachers we have these days.......

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    Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton's Tears from Obama's Church's Pulpit

    Quote Originally Posted by fishman3811
    P4B your right but most church leaders spew out crap all the time......
    Show me a church of one of the white candidates that preaches hate towards the blacks. IF that were the case the news, action groups, etc...would be making sure their candidacy was done in a week. Rev. Wright once strike one...this is another strike coming out of the same church that he refuses to leave. Why is that I wonder????:wtf:

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton's Tears from Obama's Church's Pulpit

    More white and black dividing. Wonderful. :wtf:

    And joking about corporate politics inside the church...not very classy...or ethical, for that matter.

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    Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton's Tears from Obama's Church's Pulpit

    Jake Tapper, George Stephanopoulos, and Sunlen Miller report: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., today resigned from his controversial church, Trinity United Church of Christ on the South Side of Chicago.

    Obama had been in discussions about resigning with his church's new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss before the latest controversy, which involved a longtime friend of Obama's, Father Michael Pfleger, mocking Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, just last Sunday form the church's pulpit, using racially charged language, to the apparent delight of the congregation.

    "Rev. Moss, when Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on, I really don't believe it was put on," Pfleger said from the pulpit. "I really believe that she just always thought, 'This is mine! I'm Bill's wife, I'm white, and this is mine! I just gotta get up and step into the plate.' And then out of nowhere came, 'Hey, I'm Barack Obama,' and she said, 'Oh, damn! Where did you come from? I'm white! I'm entitled! There's a black man stealing my show!'

    Pfleger then mocked Clinton's tears.

    "She wasn't the only one crying, there was a whole lot of white people crying!" Pfleger said to laughter.

    After his sermon, Rev. Moss thanked Pfleger: "We thank God for the message, we thank God for the messenger, we thank God for Father Michael Pfleger," Moss said.

    Obama's resignation from his church was first reported Saturday evening by CNN.

    The previous controversy involving his church involved heated rhetoric from its former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons used incendiary language to discuss the U.S. and race. The controversy prompted Obama to deliver a widely-publicized speech about race and later to condemn Wright.

    Sources tell ABC News that Obama felt that as the campaign continued, the media would continue to focus on the church, to the detriment of the church community, that Obama would be held responsible for what happened in the church, and that the Church would be held responsible for his campaign. It would be best, Obama felt, to simply cut ties. He has not yet joined a new church.

    As he distanced himself from Wright on April 29, Obama expressed disappointment in how the media maelstrom had intruded on the church.

    "When I go church it's not for spectacle, it's to pray and to find to find a stronger sense of faith, it's not to posture politically it's not to, you know, it's not to hear things that violate my core beliefs," he said. "And I certainly don't want to provide a distraction to those who are worshipping at Trinity. As of this point I'm a member. I haven't had a discussion with Rev Moss about it so I can't tell you how he's reacting and how he's responding ... there??s been great damage."

    Obama will address the matter this evening at a campaign stop in South Dakota.
    Political Radar: Obama Quits His Church

    Now I guess we're all suppose to forget his ties to these assclowns......

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton's Tears from Obama's Church's Pulpit

    Americans? Forget? No waaaaaay.

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    Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton's Tears from Obama's Church's Pulpit

    Hopefully that is the case:
    Birds of a feather flock together
    "A man is known by the company he keeps."
    You shall judge a man by his foes as well as by his friends

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton's Tears from Obama's Church's Pulpit

    Quote Originally Posted by fishman3811
    P4B your right but most church leaders spew out crap all the time look at swaggert look at falwell look at McCains preacher their all fucking ignorant idiots.I dont know why people take these guys seriously cause they are all preaching for money and doing really well for themselves.Even though i dont go to church i wonder what Jesus Christ would think about these guys who preach his gospel because JC was a poor man who helped the poor and the destitute and never once lived like a rich man and im sure he could off lived really well by performing miracles on people but thats not what he was about.Not like these fake preachers we have these days.......
    no doubt. i suspect Jesus would prolly charge into the church, knock over their tables and accuse them of turning a house of our father into a den of thieves. Jesus was a bad ass mo-fo when it came to dealing with the money changers :smokin:

    but, that said, that catholic dude is f'in hilarious. :rastasmoke:

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    Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton's Tears from Obama's Church's Pulpit

    Now I guess we're all suppose to forget his ties to these assclowns......
    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
    Hopefully that is the case:
    Birds of a feather flock together
    "A man is known by the company he keeps."
    You shall judge a man by his foes as well as by his friends

    Have a good one!:s4:
    Just as long as our gaze is clear on all the candidates...

    Concerning who is responsible for September 11th:
    JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."

    PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system..
    McCain Woos the Right, Makes Peace With Falwell
    Consider the following pronouncements by Hagee, the man who McCain proudly introduced as an ally last week.

    On Jews:

    It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews, God??s chosen people, to their covenantal responsibility to serve only the one true God, Jehovah, that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day.

    And:

    How utterly repulsive, insulting, and heartbreaking to God for his chosen people to credit idols with bringing blessings he had showered upon the chosen people. Their own rebellion had birthed the seed of anti-Semitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come.

    On gays:

    All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are ?? were recipients of the judgment of God for that. The newspaper carried the story in our local area that was not carried nationally that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other Gay Pride parades. So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing. I know that there are people who demur from that, but I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the day of judgment. And I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans.
    CJR: The McCain-Hagee Connection

    Now personally, I don't give a damn what someones "friends" says as long as the someone lets me know they don't have the same opinion as "their friend".

    Hopefully the GOP will start to bring their A game (whatever might be left of it) during the general election and start debating the second amendment with Obama, or let's pin him down on Medical Marijuana or economic recovery, etc...

    This level of gotcha is just sad though.

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    Priest and Obama Ally Mocks Clinton's Tears from Obama's Church's Pulpit

    Quote Originally Posted by Fencewalker
    Just as long as our gaze is clear on all the candidates...

    Concerning who is responsible for September 11th:

    McCain Woos the Right, Makes Peace With Falwell

    CJR: The McCain-Hagee Connection

    Now personally, I don't give a damn what someones "friends" says as long as the someone lets me know they don't have the same opinion as "their friend".

    Hopefully the GOP will start to bring their A game (whatever might be left of it) during the general election and start debating the second amendment with Obama, or let's pin him down on Medical Marijuana or economic recovery, etc...

    This level of gotcha is just sad though.
    Thanks for this Fencewalker. I was afraid I was going to have to go look all this crap up myself to present the balanced picture of dumbass preachers on both sides.

    John McCain has also now had to reject the support of yet another powerful right-wing preacher, Rod Parsley. Parsley has said that America was founded with the mission of destroying Islam. He controls an evangelical vote operation that was important in Bush's 2004 victory in Ohio.

    Man, that's gota hurt. You pour all these resources into wooing some right-wing christian nutjob with an organized political operation, and then you find out the guy is radioacative! Pure poison! And it happens twice in one week! I guess McCain will have to be happy with Roberson who agreed with Falwell that 9/11 was God's punishment for American immorality. I mean, it's PAT ROBERTSON! You can't disavow Pat Robertson no matter what kinds of bigotted crap pours out of his smug-ugly face. Sure he's a bigot, but he's OUR bigot. And he's got just too much clout.

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