We are making progress in Iraq

[fishman3811]

You guys keep lowering the bar though,Al Quada wasnt in Iraq until after you invaded soo you guys are the cause of your own problems.

[ldg420]

You guys keep lowering the bar

the Iraqis are just aren't adjusting quickly as we wanted, so we in turn have to adjust our goals in accordance with their pace of liberation.........:stoned:

Al Quada wasnt in Iraq until after you invaded

regardless, will you at least admit that they are there now? shouldn't we do our best to destroy them? or should we leave now only to return later when al qaeda gets even stronger in iraq? the most logical solution is to finish the job while we are there!!!!!!!!!!!:stoned:

[AspenGrow]

Ah, but you all forget that Al Queda wasn't even in Iraq until after we came in, disbanded the national army, and took the "bad man" Saddam out of power because he had WMD's which we still haven't found any evidence of.

[Psycho4Bud]

LOL....the way people talk you'd swear to God we air-dropped Al-Quada into the region. They saw an opportunity to make some headway and found that we weren't going to cut and run. Due to that, many of them have met their goal; say "Hey" to Allah from the rest of the sane people on earth.:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

[killerweed420]

You guys keep lowering the bar though,Al Quada wasnt in Iraq until after you invaded soo you guys are the cause of your own problems.

Yeah but we're so good at it.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

I'd just like to point out that if the US had left Iraq alone, we might actually have the troops and resources necessary to finally defeat the real threat, the Taliban (whom are quite openly in league with AlQaeda). Afghanistan still has only 60,000 mulit-national troops fighting for the destabalized territory, which is short of the other 60,000 that both Canadian and American generals (probably others) are calling for. With over 145,000 US troops still fighting hard to control Iraq, somehow I think we could have instituted more than enough troops to bring freedom to the Afghani people and a good ass-kickin' to AlQaeda and the Taliban (though honestly, sometimes I wonder if the government actually wants Al Qaeda obliterated, or just supressed enough to keep the people indefinately afraid).


BTW, Saddam Hussein and Osama BinLaden hated and publicly insulted each other. Hussein's government kept both Sharia law and Al Qaeda out of his country; now we'll have to see if this new weakened Iraqi nation can hold either at bay for generations to come.

[epxroot]

Hate to bust this great bubble of hope, but.....

"We Can't Win"

In one of the first substantive comments Rumsfeld makes, the second clip from the top (0:36), he explains carefully that while the USA is involved in asymmetric warfare, we can't lose militarily--but we can't win militarily, either. Oh, gee, THANKS Mr. Rumsfeld! Now you tell us? Somebody owes somebody like Senators Harry Reid and Joe Biden a great big fat apology, since that's exactly what they've been arguing for years now, to sharp rebuke from Administration spokespersons for "defeatism." But it's the end of that clip that's the real kick in the rear. "We aren't going to go around the world for the numbers of years it took Algeria, for example, to subdue an insurgency," he declares. Oh, yeah? Maybe he better tell that to Senator McCain, who seems to have his heart set on a new Hundred Years War.

Syngman Rhee

The third clip (2:01) is very, very intriguing. One of the analysts (it's impossible in most instances to figure out who the questioner is) suggests pointedly to Rumsfeld that Iraq needs a Syngman Rhee. Rhee, if you are unaware, was the ruthless authoritarian dictator of South Korea from after World War II through the Korean War to 1960. Yeah, he was a son of @!$%#, but he was our son of a @!$%#, to borrow a phrase Franklin Roosevelt said of Somoza. Well, well, well. So much for "democracy," huh? But the special treat in this little clip--before Rumsfeld wistfully closes by bemoaning the fact that Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki is "no Syngman Rhee"--is the way Rumsfeld utterly trashes Maliki's predecessor Ibrahim al-Jaafari, calling him a "wind sock."

Looks like our Government has other things in store.
Also has the audio right from the horses mouth.
Newsvine - Correctly Political: Liquid Lunch with Donald Rumsfeld

[fishman3811]

Good article it just goes to show what these assclowns think.

[Fugitive]

You can't just call them Al-Qaida, how do you know they belong to Al qaida. The people are revolting against an illegal occupation. They will continue to do so until you leave because of financial trouble. Please don't tell me you weren't warned lol

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