First Time DWC W/ Water Farm Buckets

[SnSstealth]

LOL...i gotta sense of humor WH, no worries..I am to damn stoned right now to remember much though...only a few grams left of the JHxBB
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SnSstealth Reviewed by SnSstealth on 06-09-2008. First Time DWC W/ Water Farm Buckets This is my first Bucket grow ever. I have done tables before and had great results Soil ect... Then I seen the excellent results People were getting out of 4 bubbler plants with LST. So I Just purchased 2 8 pack Water Farm Bucket Systems. After 5 days I can see that I need to buy a stronger pump and more line cause I cut it all down. I'm running tap water 7.8 dropping it down to 5.8 to 6.3 W/ PH Down. I set up the system without washing the Hydrotone and balancing the PH level of it. I did Rating: 5

[Weedhound]

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...-crowd-17.html

Hey Gl.....go to page 17 of my c crowd log and read up on what we did to the white widow to try and combat the same problem you are having with your plants.....a few pics there too. Hope the info helps.

[GreenLeaf420]

I seen those roots SICK. I'm going t chance it I'm going for the Largest WF Buckets EVER. Is that correct if it work? I will give it a shot but I have my bails of pro mix waiting. The whole LST thing is new to me I just want to support them the way they stand now and not LST any IDEAS?

[Weedhound]

Well you don't have to bend the branches in order to help support them.....tie the tape to the main stem if you want.....we've done that before and it worked fine.

Just remember to do both sides equally.

[GreenLeaf420]

WH do you think it could be possible that I do not have major root development?

Remember when I was hitting them W/ 1500PPM's they blew up to be monsters.

I ripped 4 out today and looked at all the roots. In C Crowd I seen the roots and I could not believe the way the hydrotone was stuck to all the roots. When I opened those 4 the roots were not even close to that yet the stems strength is a concern I think cause there are not enought roots. I put them to 12/12 I'm cutting all th clones. I'm giving them the best environment possible lets see if they give anything back.... Worst case I will be ready....

Thank You so much for everything GL 420

You are a great help and a great friend Thank You

[Weedhound]

Yes that could be exactly OR the opposite problem somewhat which is that the roots get so crammed in that red bucket because there is nowhere else for them to grow to that they end up dying off and then rotting. This is the issue we dealt with several times in previous grows and really got out of control in our last few grows when our zyme product become outdated and we didn't know it and couldn't understand why we were starting to see so many root problems all of a sudden.

I then beat my hydro man into a corner and got hold of the following information: First of course was that my cannazym was too old. He also sold me something called root excualator which I haven't used yet but was quite expensive. He also recommended something called Rhizotonic for the roots to assist with root growth.

What's the difference between these? Rhizotonic helps grow better, more and stronger roots. Cannazym takes dead and dying roots (as in later flowering plants or where your roots die off because they are all crammed together and makes them an inert material....ergo....they don't rot! Pretty cool eh?

The only big restriction is that you cant use either on in conjunction with H202 (or the Root Excel thing either which is for treating root rot I'm told) so it's one or the other.

[Weedhound]

Thanks very much for the thanks... I love helping folks who WANT to learn and who are willing to do the work. You are both.

On reflection I think you have too many roots but they are not healthy and so are dying off and/or rotting and affecting the strength of your stems. You have nice large plants but had several "root issues" along the way including your ph issues AND overnuting which burns the roots too. Taping your stems WILL help and using rhizoT and cannazym wiill help as well as long as you have good drainage through the red buckets. Otherwise the odds are much more against a finished harvest without problems.

[GreenLeaf420]

WH check out the first page of the thread the first post was May 12th. Look @ the size of the roots in the PIC. That plant in the PIC is the largest healthiest plant I have now and it's only been less then 30 days since the PICS. Well I'm not doughting you. Just looking into things.

I'm cutting clones everyday and I will be getting ready to do a soil bed. I want to try a Tranoble. I will never do another DWC if I can not get these to stick with me. Either way I will be prepared for the worst. I'm just hacking up all my big Mom's so I think the beds are going to happen. I will give them 10 days in flower just to see what happens with these. Plant size I should see 4oz a plant? what's your opinion if they were to make it?


Thanks again for everything WH :thumbsup:

Sincerely, GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile:

If the DWC does not work I will go soil but then I will come back with the AERO to stick with the HYDRO CREW

[GreenLeaf420]

Even when they flower they will need to be tied up or branches will snap. Someone mentioned to Put chicken wire to the ceiling. I really am not into that to many hours of tyeing. The bed will be built tomorrow

[McDanger]

Hi all,
After reading this thread I think I will do an e&f for my 1st hydro. My question, If I lower the ph to somewhere in the 3's to prep the hydroton will it rise to the 5-6 level just from pumping it thru the e&f tub with 40lbs of hydroton in it? I am going to let the system rum for 24 hrs to prep the hydro.

Thanks for your help

GL420, sorry to see so many problems, this is scaring me away from w/f just when I was about to build one. I think I am getting information overload.