First Time DWC W/ Water Farm Buckets

[GreenLeaf420]

WH can you please show me a shot of how you tie them of stake them!!!!

Thanks GL:thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

Gl you've just gone and grown them babies too big.

I think your plants are rootbound. If you aren't using a zyme product then start asap and consider flushing to help get any excess crud/fert build up, old dead roots etc out.
This is something that all of us with waterfarms have run into sooner or later which is why everyone drills extra holes in all their w/f buckets and there STILL seem to be issues which is why I went to 8 inch net pots instead.

There isn't anything you can do really except use your zyme products and try to keep drainage and 02/water flow open for the roots inside your red buckets. If you don't develop root rot problems they may finish ok.

[Weedhound]

Here's a pic of my soil WW that I've lst'd. I like the green gardners tape because of its stretchy and flexible nature so if I forget to check it and the branch grows the tape will stretch along with it instead of choking off the branch its tied to.

I use those binder clips or simply drill holes in the edges of the pot to anchor the ties. To provide support for your stems make sure you tie both sides (or better yet...all 4 sides) of your plant equally.

[GreenLeaf420]

Hey WH So i guess in the bottom of those red buckets I have a huge mess of roots? I have been running 2-3 tbs of hyrozyme per 5 gallons since day one. Roots are as white as can be. I'm thinking of just taking 8 of them and going into flower tomorrow. I should definitely get 3 ounces off each. I will put 3 under a 1000 and hope for the best. I cut 20 clones on Thursday. I will veg them 10 days in the VEG room then throw them in their I should do OK. I GUESS????

I really don't know what I have gotten myself into but I think I will be studying LST Next LOL

Do you think the roots are ushig the plants up? What would be your action on the ones that are doing good to keep them going that way.

Also am I safe by saying at least 3 OZ a Plant?

[Weedhound]

GL...let me dig up a few old photos and post them....you are right....there are HUGE MASSES of roots jammed into that red bucket and that's what is causing your rootbound issues. I'm WAY afraid to make guesses on yield because your plants could start to crash and burn at any time......especially with root issues. Believe me without healthy roots and a good enviroment for them there's no guarantees to finish and Mr Hound and I have seen them go downhill FAST firsthand.

[GreenLeaf420]

Hey what's going on!!!

I killed 4 today I have 8 nice healthy ones. Ripped the roots out of the pots and they were all white. I hope the other 8 can make it. Right now I'm running just CLEAREX. I added 1 TBS per gallon 15 gallon rez. I just don't know how long to run it if it was ebb and flow or Trays it is completely different with DWC. I'm going to Home Depot after dinner and was going to send them into flower tomorrow. I have a couple in soils I just have to Straighten out. I wanna try LST what type of tape is that WH? Well I hope I get some weight out of the setup.

GL:jointsmile: HAZE

[SnSstealth]

ick man....sorry for the bad fortune GL, this is one of those very few times when you can say "my plants grew too much" and it be a bad thing...I gotta whipe my whole garden now, so I feel your pain..I guess they could come back, but I think you were around when this happened to WH...and hers didnt make it either if I remember correctly.....sorry dude
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whiskeytango

[SnSstealth]

it was green gardeners tape GL...good to see you still got some going...have you tried carbonated water or peroxide?...I am no dro guy, strictly dirty, but i think i remember WH saying something about those helping oxygenating the roots...i think..but I am REALLY stoned right now, so wait for her to confirm that, or tell me Im retarded....
whiskeytango

[GreenLeaf420]

it was green gardeners tape GL...good to see you still got some going...have you tried carbonated water or peroxide?...I am no dro guy, strictly dirty, but i think i remember WH saying something about those helping oxygenating the roots...i think..but I am REALLY stoned right now, so wait for her to confirm that, or tell me Im retarded....
whiskeytango

LOL I think I'm going to drive it out and see what happens. I will fill the EZ cloner 120 before sending them off. The roots are not that bad... I dont see major development. I ripped four out and the biggest one hardly had any roots in the red Buckets. Well will have to see. HYDROZYME will love me for the next two months.....

Dam summer

[Weedhound]

They aren't mutually exclusive Stealth LOL!! disclaimer: JOKE!

The problem with the w/f's is that they don't promote good drainage partially because of their teeny holes in the red bucket and i personally also think its because of the square shape of them. They jus aren't built well for larger plants imo.

Here's a couple photos of some of the problems we've had (pic one is a branch literally suffocating due to the roots being squished off inside the red bucket) that can be traced directly back to poor water flow, air flow AND drainage in the waterfarms buckets.

The largest problem is that the roots get so messed up and crammed together that they keep any water, fresh nutes and oxygen flow out and away from the middle of the root area where its needed. Adding a zyme product OR H202 will help but only in the spots inside the red bucket that it can reach. Without fresh air, water and nutes to the rootball eventually you will get root rot or another root disease and could easily lose your crop.

GL if you go back through some of my older grow logs you'll see we've been fighting this issue for YEARS and never did find a good way around the problem despite drilling TONS of extra holes in the buckets among other things. We ended up going with some different and modified buckets instead of the red w/f's