First Time DWC W/ Water Farm Buckets

[GreenLeaf420]

I'm experiencing major PH issues. I try-ed to drop it down with powder and have not had the chance to try the liquid form yet.

I Have 2 Water Farm 8 Packs. I had all 16 set up and I dropped down to 12 I originally set things up @ 5.8 "THE PERFECT PH LEVEL"
Then I read a bunch of posts on PH and hydro. It went on to say that PH years back was measured with fish tank testers and there was nothing even close to accurate to check PH. For the People who were even trying to check PH always said "5.8 IS THE PERFECT PH" Well to try to get my PH somewhat balanced I went to each pail dropping them as low as 3.8 and as high as 4.3. Two House later they read 5.5 5.8 and the next day 6.0 to 6.7. On all the new readings on PH I have read state that when the PH goes above 6.5 the plants uptake diminishes and lower then 4.0 is the same. So I keep my rez now @ 3.8 and will try to balance out into the future to use the PH in the Rez to stabilize out the system Till I convert it to recirculate which I put in a big order hose valves ect....

Plants are now happy when I was setting it to 5.8 2 Hrs later it was 6.3 6.5 and the plants were all flat not in good shape. I will be posting that thread on PH check it out I will through up a link...

GreenLeaf420 Reviewed by GreenLeaf420 on 05-22-2008. First Time DWC W/ Water Farm Buckets This is my first Bucket grow ever. I have done tables before and had great results Soil ect... Then I seen the excellent results People were getting out of 4 bubbler plants with LST. So I Just purchased 2 8 pack Water Farm Bucket Systems. After 5 days I can see that I need to buy a stronger pump and more line cause I cut it all down. I'm running tap water 7.8 dropping it down to 5.8 to 6.3 W/ PH Down. I set up the system without washing the Hydrotone and balancing the PH level of it. I did Rating: 5

[GreenLeaf420]

Check out this thread on PH!!!!

Helped me...

http://boards.cannabis.com/advanced-...-approach.html

[Weedhound]

I'm sorry but I'm completely lost here.....both as to what the different approach thread was saying but also what you are saying as well. And I mean.....really lost. That being said....you said you seem to have solved the problem so that's grea!!! :thumbsup:

Good luck with the rest of your grow.

[johnny5fingers]

I dont think you can do anything about not washing the hydroton at this point. Even if you didnt set the PH on the hydroton before you started using it.....eventually it will stablize with use.
I think you have something else going on here that is causing the ph to rise so rapidly.
The ph for you water right out of the tap is on the high side.
I would cut your nutes in half till you figure out what the problem is.
I use Vita Grow nutes...........and have used them for years and have never had PH problems. Most people in the forums dont even seem to be aware of Vita Grow. It is very cost effective and yealds very good.
Seems to me most people who have PH problems are using Foxfarm products.
I have grown plants perfectly happy at a ph of 7. Though I usually will run my system at the high 5's.
After you havest this crop clean your hydroton and get all the residue out of your buckets.
Good luck.

[GreenLeaf420]

Johnny Fingers I've done a full system flush. I washed and went through threw the buckets with hundreds of gallons. How can you feed a hydo system @ 7.0 if there uptake will be so diminished?
I've been setting my Rez @ 4.3 and fist pail is 5.8 last pail is 6.7. PH down is used everyday. I feed them GH 3 Part system with hydrozyme Cal-Mag and Foil With VHO. I [plan on hitting them with some Flora Nova later on. Straight TAP 7.8.


Is that enought?

http://boards.cannabis.com/advanced-...-approach.html

[GreenLeaf420]

WH With the system what do you think if I drill a hole and put an air stone in the bottom with another pump?

[Weedhound]

Greenleaf I hate to do this to you but understand I'd forget my head if it wasn't screwed on and johnny may have a good point.....can you repeat your basic stats for us?

Tap water ppm?
gh 3 part ppm?
Cal Mag? ppm?
Room temps these days?
age of plants and all the cool little jazz that goes along with it.

The lighting i know is 3 kw and 16 w/fs if I'm not mistaken so please correct me if I'm wrong and update the rest of your specs if possible.

An updated photo would be great too. The nutes sound good but I'm not sure you need Cal Mag along with tap water but I suppose it would depend on the ppm of your tap water.

[GreenLeaf420]

[quote=Weedhound]Tap water ppm?
gh 3 part ppm?
Cal Mag? ppm?
Room temps these days?
age of plants QUOTE]

I use LateWoods Theory on NUTES.

Except his is 8ml of fluids per gallon. I use 25ml of fluids which on the bottle is the eqivalent to 45ml of NUTES. Which equals out to be 3 TBS per 5 gallon.

So the answer is TAP is 60ppm

After the 3 TBS of Each equals 1500 ppm for VEG

VEG Has been a bit over a month for some and 5 months for others .

Room Temp is 80-82 W/ A/C's can set to anything waiting on the CO2 Machine this week.

Cal-Mag and Hydrozyme really don't mesure. Really with the nutes is the same I sometimes back off on the NITRO. Most of the time a TBS or Two per 5 gallons of each ZYME or Cal.

Will post PICS in a few HRS...

[GreenLeaf420]

Like I said I'm new to this bucket with hydrotone. I feel I'm getting it down just the hard way. I can not believe the plant's quick development. I found out I have an issue W/ one of the REZes. I have to goto the Hydro store on Tue. I fucked up my buddy assembled both systems. I checked the two of them and in the lower REZ the float valves are different. One has a white flange and the other is just a bubble with no way it appears to be able to regulate the water from the top. I seen Hydrotone in the lower REZ and the water is higher in that rezes buckets.. I called them and they will be Fixxing my issue TUES. The pump that came with that set up is Fucked up too. I can not win I should have checked out that system when I broke it down. I took it and made it a 4 plant system hoping to correct what ever the issue was. Not realizing that I was killing them. Back to my theory of only the strong survive. Man it is pissing me off it was all my churches except for the two I switched the first few days when I noticed the problem. I even transplanted a few in soil they are doing good. Coming back to life. The ones that are still kicking out of the four will be left till TUES. I will post PICS today.

[Weedhound]

8 ml gallon? And am I correct in reading that you are using 25/ml gallon? 1500 ppm (what type of meter do you have?). Holy tamoly.....my plants would drop over dead from that number!! I don't have mine on 1500 EVER....1350 is about as high as I go and thats including the Cal Mag and and not until the last four weeks of flower.

Hope they're doing ok with that. (Or perhaps I just read that all wrong.....sorry...:stoned