Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey
This is a very interesting post you have here Readytoride, I'll try to comment where my knowledge is available:



This isn't really true, it's just happened with other faiths. Mohammad did, after all, found Islam about 800 years ago (I'm probably way off, but it's much new than Christianity). Then in the 1860's, Baha'ula founded the Bah'ai religion with wisdom that actually impressed me more than any monotheistic religion I've seen yet. Really worth reading up on, and I think if any prophet sounds legit, he does.



You're absolutely right that Christianity has been re-shaped since it's inception; in fact all the written and orally-passed stories weren't collected into a single text 'till some 600 years after Jesus. Christmas is indeed not Jesus's birthday, but I think most Christians are aware of this and don't really consider it too substantial. It is, after all, about the honoring of his sacrifice. December 25th has been passed down through many, many religions (probably seeing as it's the last day of the winter solstice), and for the Romans it stood long as a day of partying, drugs, and orgies. Now that's my kind of Christmas!
God's way is the only right one? I think that leaves open a very subjective philosophy, and who's faith constitutes an "accurate" following of God's word?
Many people believe that the Buddha's teachings are absolutely a message of God, but one that tries to put more emphasis on defining the human psyche, soul, and what we call consciousness. Many Buddhists even believe that Buddha was God, in a sense, much like Jesus is claimed to be a manifestation of God (though his actual literal deification is completely anti-Christian). In Buddhist philosophy, to attain enlightenment one would achieve what's known as "the extinction of self". Not the actual death of you, but the death or your ego. In achieving ego extinction, one separates the barriers from themself and the rest of the universe, thereby being liberated from all ignorance, evil, and suffering. Coming from a Buddhist perspective myself, to attain enlightenment is to become God; because even as Christians believe, God is an omni-present force. Thereby, by removing the barriers between yourself and all other existence, you take on the very nature that is God and become a part of "him".



You might want to be more careful about proof-reading; 'cause I honestly can't make out some of that... :wtf:

The popular date these days seems to be December 22nd, 2012. Originally made popular by the Mayan calender showing that this date marks a great shift for humanity, many other cultures seem to mark 2012 as the next stage in human "evolution" (not biologically).
I think it may be worthy of credence, but I'm highly suspicious that this is all fortold by various cultures because of astological consistencies. December 22nd is, after, the beginning of the winter Soltice (mythologically important), and the new Eon (which happens every 2,500 years or so) is due around this time.



Giving strength to the argument that these dates are based on ancient astrology, and not actual proven prophecies to be relied on.




Based on what? And why would God use such confusing measurements, calling something a "day" when it's not, and knowing this would confuse us?



OkyDoky.



Pagan's are not Satanists. The Catholic church indoctrinated the public with a lot of information that wasn't originally taught by Jesus, this included. Pagans, for the most part these days, are about nature worship in one form or another. To appreciate and revere God's creation doesn't seem all that terrible to me; better than our new religion or media pop culture and instant gratification.



The ID chip is indeed bullshit, though you seem to be greatly exagerating the situation based on any currently available information. Or are you assuming this because it fly's with your preconceptions well?




People have been matching up scriptural prophecies since they were made; and every generation was sure they all matched up, so the rapture was any day now. The last biggest movement of the imminant final battle was during the Korean war, which occured right after World War 2, which was right after the Great Depression, Right after World War 1. The prophecies were even more accurately fulfilled then and the bad shit going down was WAY bigger than what we're seeing today. Yet, they all insisted the big world-change was going to happen only a few years from then, just like they're saying today.


BTW, stating things very excitedly with exclamation marks doesn't really help your argument. People respond to evidence these days, so just saying...
And for God's sake man, wait 'till you're down on whatever you're on and write semi-coherently!
1.)Muhummad killed and disacrated lots of pepole,he was twisted and to me NOT a Prophet of Holiness,now what defines a Prophet in your eyes may not in mine.A Prophet is a teacher,TRUE-he did oppose his enamies and bring 'dicipline'to them(by death and terror to those who oppose him).And true Islam was created 800 years ago.If Allah is the correct God and Islam is correct,sorry I guess I am going to hell becuase I would NEVER want to share a piece of paradise and live forever with a ruthless deity such has Allah,I mean come on when I was in Isreal I heard reports of Islam-Jihadist storming houses and tearing a Jewish family limb for limb and carrying them out by there bodies parts and MURDERED a 3 year old boy who siad 'Allah is hate'.And no I didn't hear this from T.V. I heard this from my cousin who fight in the Isreali Amry,I am well aware what both sides do AND I denouce BOTH of there tatics,I am not a man of killing over land!Isreal is just has guilty has them,so is our Government over 9/11!In my mind we picked a fight with pepole who didn't care about us(honestly).Has far has the Crusades,it turned the Jews off from Jesus becuase of the constant ridicual and mass murders(The Roman Catholics and followers carried out the Vacticans plans of killing Jews)when the pepole didn't stop and think King Harold choose the highest priest and they opposed Jesus.I can see why pepole are turned off by relgion when most are dirty of crimes,not just Islam.

2.)I can agree with Budha,look let me this clear my perception of God isn't like most pepole,I have stuided many relgions and I believe a key element lies in EVERY single one of them.Example.)I believe Islam when they say "God can never be seen or touched."this is true becuase in God's true form we can't see his face,we'd die it states it several times in the Bible,if you want I can refer,find it and p.m. it too you.

3.)Proof reading-I did kinda type that fast also I had my son in my ear distracting me sorry to confuse you man.The early times(b.c.)was based on sun-up to sun-down that defined a day.After Rome fell alot of Eureopeon colonies adopted the Roman Calender and time such has Great Britian(who was heavly infulanced by the Catholic Church),were did we come from?Great Britian!To us a day beguins a 12 and ends at 12.Also has far has the Bible begin confusing I can see were you are coming from also,I believe it was kinda mis-translated,Hewbrew is hard to translate becuase HELL is Haides,Haides means grave for example.

4.)Yes the Mayans did very good work,it's MIND BLOWING the 'Mass shift of conuisnuss' is happening now and I believe will 'peak'in 2012 when EVERYONE accepts the fact,we have been lied to BAD for years,HELL mabye not since the beguining,goes back to my perception of Yahweh i'll cover that below.

5.)I can prove that Danile predicted alot of things Bush did,the information I have even matchs the Bible verses with dates read my reply below I have proof and i'll post it.Tell me what you think after I post it.

6.)I can't put my takes on Pagainsm YET I am still studying,but if the goat head of mendes is in Pagan then to me that is Satanism like I siad our ideas differ we are human :-)


7.)'The Mark of the Beast'was predicted in the Bible here is the verse:And he causeth all, both small and great,
Rich and poor, free and bond,
To receive a mark on their right hand,
Or on their forehead.
And that no man might buy or sell,
Save that he had the mark,
Or the name of the beast,
Or the number of his name.*
Revelation 13:16,17


Know how in the hell would they know this so long ago?When pepole lived in mud houses or tents?There is pepole already taking this chip in there hand and forehead RIGHT NOW,even in there animals!!The chances of that Propchey beging furfilled 1,000,000 to .1 I did the odds,either 2 things is happening the Bible is correct(which I believe the Prophcies are)OR our government is playing a end-time game....which wouldn't surpise me conlcuding Bush's RETARDED desicions.


8.)The differance is Propchies only furfilled to the extant 150-200 years,to the T.Now they have skyrocketted if you wish to see the scriptures with the events i'll p.m. it you I have been studying Propchy since I was little,i'll tell you Daniel,Ezeckiel,and Revlations tie in to each other and to me,I believe someone tampered with Relations and switched it up so no one would know so it wouldn't fall into wrong hands,refer to Nostradamus quadtrains you have to read it a certain way.

I am posting the PROOF before your eyes of how Bush furfilled Propchies.I am glad to be apart of your thread I hope you achieve what you are looking for(answers),like I siad when the anti-christ apears ALOT of athiest will see the hell that is coming.NOW you must be wondering "If God is such a great person why is he putting the Earth tru this 'Tribulation Period'I keep hearing about?"

2 Reasons-
The Jews denied Christ
The jews lost 7 years,they were soppose to go and preach the world and it hasn't been furfilled yet,God held 7 years.