I've been doing the cheese for about a year and a half. Outstanding stuff, unfortunately I've experienced some problems lately with them. Been busting my ass to figure out the problem with no luck. And I always think I screwed up, but I discovered my moms are sick. Some kind of a disease. Bummer, I wasn't prepared for this disaster. I had some old hermie seeds from a couple years ago and I thought I'd get by with those until I got new seeds but only a couple are viable. Ordered new seeds from Dr. Chronic and I'll start over. Trying Bluecheese also next time.