Little curly bushy plants need a little help :)

[Rusty Trichome]

Would ditch the H2O2 and foliar, and see what happens. Plants have evolved to feed themselves thru their roots. So to me, it's likely the best way to feed 'em. Since they are getting their nutes thru the roots, no real need for foliar, especially if the plant is already stressed. Do you rinse the leaves after foliar to reduce build-up and (chemical) leaf burn?

Can you find Superthrive, or some other form of micro-nutes? If so, would ditch the

Some folks do a foliar-only regimin, but those folks generally have their shit dialed-in, have a broader knowlege of the products they are working with, and know what their ladies like. (they know the why-for's and how-to's)

My ladies tell me they prefer the lower humidity in flower. I live in the desert where obviously it gets very hot and very dry. In my outdoor flower room the summer humidity inside ranges from below 15% (before watering) to 40%. (after watering or flushing) I use no humidifier, and I rarely foliar unless it's necessary to correct a defeciency. Especially with the heat, and possible heat burn or mold issues excessive humidity can cause.

Also, do you check your ties often, to make sure none of the twist-ties or string is cutting into the branches?

[Rusty Trichome]

Crap...wasn't done with the edit...

Anyway, I was just adding that some nutes aren't compatible with each other. Especially with different brands. So ditching one of yours and adding Superthrive to your regimin (as directed on bottle) is likely a better method.

I'd start by removing the the African Violet mix. It appears to have too much nitrogen for flower stage anyway. (and not quite enough for veg)

I hope all works out for ya...:thumbsup:

[jessejames12345]

Im not sure if I can get superthrive here where I live, but Ill do some reaserch and try to find something alternative. Foliar out, Violet out, h2o2 out, mollases ??

Do you recomend a flush on the 2 sick plants ?

[Weedhound]

I'd stop ALL nutes, flush with ph correct water and then get something BESIDES schultz or miracle grow and use that at 1/4 strength (at correct ph) ONCE. The more things your add the worse the plants are getting. I seriously think Rusty is correct...you need a lot LESS not a lot more.

Good luck.

[Weedhound]

Your 15 percent humidity also bites......you need to get that alot closer to 30-35% and have it stay close to that 24/7....not hopping around from 15% all over the board.

[jessejames12345]

OK , thanks guys ( and girls I will flush tonight when the lights come on tonight and seriously tone down all feeding for a while.

Yea Rusty, your grow enviroment is testemant to the hardiness of our beloved little plant

Thanks again

[Weedhound]

Hope that works for you. Let us know.

[Rusty Trichome]

Your 15 percent humidity also bites......you need to get that alot closer to 30-35% and have it stay close to that 24/7....not hopping around from 15% all over the board.

Alas, were this a perfect world, I'd be inclined to agree.
I've mentioned this before, but good luck telling me I can't do something that I've been doing for years quite successfully. Not much I can do about local the weather except to patiently adapt and compensate. (while smoking some awesome home grown) :jointsmile:

Is what I do optimal...? Yes, I feel that for my grow conditions it is.

Am I successful growing a bit hotter, a bit drier...? Yup. But I also compensate. (raising lights a bit, more aggressive fan blowing heat up from top of canopy, only one HPS on at a time, on 6 hour shifts, adding a bit more water to the daily schedule, split nutes to twice a week, instead of once a week, flushes every few weeks or so to help lower root zones to get some fresh 'stuff'...) Adds a week or two to the schedule, but my methods work fine.

Would I rather I had a better A/C, to cool the room down better or a self-filling humidifier...? Possibly. But there's a bunch of shit around the house I just can't afford, and have learned to do without. A better heater for the winter months would be nice, too.
Am I going to get anal-retentive, and not grow because I can't afford a lab-quality grow enviornment...? No, I just make do with what I have to work with. :thumbsup:

I guess while some are worried about what they can't provide, my approach is to see what I can provide. It has worked well enough for me so far, that I even have the freedom to experiment.

My grow logs:
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...ownsizing.html

http://boards.cannabis.com/advanced-...-s-re-veg.html

[Weedhound]

Yes but you aren't having grow issues either....

[jessejames12345]

I got a question for ya , while i sit here and wait for the lights to come back on

So Im going to flush tonight with 3 * growing medium , water only with ph corrected to what level ?

Im starting to really realize how important ph really is, even more than lights sometimes

right now, my tap water ph is around 7.5 , i dont have THE most accurate tester, but i take the results 3 times and average.

my run off ph , from this sick plant, is around 6.5. From what I read thats optimal ?

that means my soil is lowering my ph by one whole point . Im no chemist, but wouldent that mean I should flush with just regular tap water, not ph corrected ? If my tap water makes my runoff = optimal .

Sorry , i know thats a noobish question, and ,for the record i AM going to flush with phCorrect water cause my inner voice (weedhound, rusty) tells me its the right thing to do ...., Im just more interested in the 'why' of it all...

THANKS:jointsmile: