Little curly bushy plants need a little help :)

[jessejames12345]

Thanks I re-poted last night in to their final homes (3 gallon) and did one final LST .

Cool to see the different traits of the plants, almost seems like 2 different strains LOL

So... curling of the leaves like that (from the first images) can be normal ?

jessejames12345 Reviewed by jessejames12345 on 05-05-2008. Little curly bushy plants need a little help :) Hi everyone . Here are my little ladies. Just now 5 days into 12/12 and for the past few days they've started to get really curly in the leaves and limp. Im a first time grower , and want to do all I can to let these little bushes reach their full potential. Thanks ! Rating: 5

[daihashi]

Thanks I re-poted last night in to their final homes (3 gallon) and did one final LST.

Good, because you had the beginning signs of being rootbound. I have alot of personal experience with rootbound plants. lol

:thumbsup:

[Mr. Clandestine]

So... curling of the leaves like that (from the first images) can be normal ?

Actually, Nitrogen deficiency can cause the tips of the leaves to curl downwards, and judging from the slight yellowing you had leads me to think that this may have been the cause. I've read that Sulfur deficiency can also cause similar symptoms, but that's much less common than a N-def.

I've also noticed that higher temperatures (85F and above) can cause the leaf tips to droop, as well as overfeeding with nutrients. If at all possible, keep your temperatures at 80F or slightly below, which is an optimal range. And stick to a dedicated feeding regimen, as opposed to heavy feedings here and there. Plants respond really well to an implemented schedule, and can sometimes get stressed from irregular feedings.

Glad you repotted, too. Rootbound plants will generally show a whole mess of symptoms, leading the grower to add all sorts of excess nutrients that aren't necessary. Give it a week or two after the repot, and see how things progress.

Take care. :jointsmile:

[jessejames12345]

Ok good to hear . I' ll keep you all posted. I have a log going if you want to check in over there

peace
:jointsmile:

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...nt-bushes.html

[jessejames12345]

Hey all, Im still having a hell of a time with this plant, ...and it seems to be spreading on now to the plant behind it.

I gave her a flush last week, with 1/4 nutes following, and since then , been regular feed sched.( been fed once again since then, reg strngth)
The whole plant just has a general 'lite green-yellowing' color compared to her sis's. Plus many of the leaves are littered with these lite brown spots, and are dry and rough compared to the softness of the other leaves.

I just did a ph test. One of those tests where you drop the powder from the pill in the water and shake.....anyways, my tap water ph was about 7.5 ...ouch...but my runoff from the sickest plant was ok , ..about 6.5'ish.
So Im not quite sure what to do now with her, shes' been sick with this weirdness for weeks...i dont want to flush again, and the runoff ph tells me i dont need to ????

Im just more concerned that the plant behind her is starting to show similiar signs, ..and shes an ass kicker plant, ..huge potential...I REALLY dont want her to get the same probs.
Are they defficiant ? Ive read SOO many over nuting horror stories, a lot more then under nuting anyways, Im hesitant to dump more nutes on them....

sorry Ive been long worded...I ...again...blame the AJHaze :rastasmoke:

[jessejames12345]

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[Rusty Trichome]

How often do you add nutes, and what is the N-P-K numbers on them? Sounds and looks like you are giving too much humidity, too much heat, and likely overfeeding. You mention foliar feeding daily at 1/4 strength. This may be the problem. 1/4 strength, four times a week=100%. 1/4 strength, 7 times a week=way too much)

Living in the desert with an outdoor flower room, I usually never give the ladies anything foliar, except perhaps an occational spray to correct any deficiencies (usually nitrogen) that may occour. But when I do spray, I raise the lights till all is evaporated. (The little drops of water act like millions of tiny magnifying lenses)

I would recommend going with a regular feeding schedule without the foliar. Especially if you are having heat issues. (steamed cannabis doesn't grow well)

[jessejames12345]

your right i do think the foliar might be the problem, The little brown 'spots' on the leaves, could these be burns form the spray ? could this be why the leaves feel crispy on this plant ?

The temps @ canopy are right around 80.

Im feeding

shultz african violet @1/2 strenght 8-14-9
Awessome bloosm @1/2 2-11-11
mollases 1 tbls
h202 1 tbls

all this is per gallon of water, every 3rd feed straight water.

Im at 5 weeks flower.

[Rusty Trichome]

Curious why the hydrogen peroxide? Seems a bit much, but then I don't use any.

I'm not familiar with the nutes, but on each label, what are the recommended doses, and for every how often? Are you using half-strength of each to compensate for each other's possible inadequacies...? Some are indicated (labeled) for application every week on 'normal' houseplants, some are labeled for every two weeks. If there is a difference, adjustments are likely necessary.

[jessejames12345]

the h202 , well I read that it help get oxegen to the roots, but who knows

Im mixing both to get a more complete feeding, as the Awesome blossom lacks trace minerals, but defiantly not being very scientifc about it :jointsmile:

Im just going over the recomended dosages, and for the MG its every watering 7 drops per litre. Ive been using half that.

For the AB, it says 5 drops per litre for 'low light ' plants 10 for 'bright light' plants. Ive been giving half here too.

The foliar mixture Ive been spraying is my 1/2 nute mixture, diluted again with half water.

When I spray the plants, I lightly mist over the entire canopy about 10 -15 sprays.

Thanks for all the help Rusty