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	05-28-2008, 04:34 AM #61 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 outdoor lst - come on indoes anybody know approximately how many days stretching occurs during flower? i know it is strain specific, im just looking for a ballpark answer, I only have 6-7 inches of vertical room (from current tops), and it seems to be stretching quite a bit. i have a feeling it might not fit  i will hope for the best and keep tying stuff down i will hope for the best and keep tying stuff down
 
 thanks if anyone can answer this :smokin:check out my grow log:
 Greenatik\'s Vertical Coco Cab
 
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	05-28-2008, 05:36 AM #62 Senior Member Senior Member
 outdoor lst - come on inmine just stopped stretching at 2 and a half weeks. your plants are looking great. 
 
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	05-28-2008, 06:31 AM #63 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 outdoor lst - come on inthank you keeko, i have hope now  check out my grow log: check out my grow log:
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	05-29-2008, 12:38 AM #64 Senior Member Senior Member
 outdoor lst - come on ini was getting pretty close to the top of my cabinet also, thankfully they have stopped as i said. peace 
 
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	05-29-2008, 07:25 AM #65 Senior Member Senior Member
 outdoor lst - come on inPilav is looking very lush she is a good looking chick.:thumbsup: Originally Posted by greenatik Originally Posted by greenatik
 
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	05-29-2008, 07:45 AM #66 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 outdoor lst - come on inwell heres some of the plants in the wild. transplanted w/ mulch and fabric to hold more moisture. I added the mulch a week ago and came back today and soil was still moist. things are looking up :jointsmile: 
 
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 Is this female or? Need help first time flowering from seed I have only done clones so 
 
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 enjoy, this might be the last update for them for a while, for security purposes of course:jointsmile:
 
 but pilav is looking insanely good, will have to post some pics soon. tied it down and regained 3.5 more inches of headspace. running over max fert intake but no nute burn yet. I water the coco every other day about 1 gallon.
 
 peace :jointsmile:check out my grow log:
 Greenatik\'s Vertical Coco Cab
 
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	05-29-2008, 07:51 AM #67 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 outdoor lst - come on inneed help pruning, what leaves are ok to prune off during flower and veg, and how many? Do i need to only pull of a few on each plant at a time or can I do quite a few? The article I read about lst-ing along the ground says removing fan leaves is a normal process, because of how bushy it gets. any help is appreciated, I have to remove some leaves from pilav soon to expose all the bud sites, the pc case is quite full now  check out my grow log: check out my grow log:
 Greenatik\'s Vertical Coco Cab
 
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	05-29-2008, 07:54 AM #68 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 outdoor lst - come on inoh and a picture of one of the ones being lst'd completely horizontal, only doing a couple, they seem to have more insect problems  
 
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	05-29-2008, 09:16 AM #69 Senior Member Senior Member
 outdoor lst - come on inNice log Greenatik, I train my potted sativas in a similar way. The difference is that I wind the stem around the outside of the pot rim to minimise contact between plant material and the soil. 
 
 I haven't had any problems with insects... but looking at your plant I'd suggest loosening her bonds a little so she can gain a few inches height above the soil, should improve air circulation and remove the leaf litter from the top of the pot. If you want to mulch for water retention use just about anything else eg) peat, coco coir, ground lucerne chaff, fine mushroom compost. Leaf litter provides a great habitat for snails, slugs and caterpillars, all of them like having tender green shoots on the doorstep.Typing does not equal activism.
 
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	05-29-2008, 09:36 AM #70 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 outdoor lst - come on inyes, you are right, it would of been better to train them above the soil, but given my time restraints, and how often I am able to visit them, i only have a few minutes to stake some shoots down. I have let my training go on 3/4 of them and are only keeping a few horizontal. 
 
 but about the mulch, I am using bark nuggets, simply bark not full mulch (leaf clippings), do you think this will also create a habitat for insects?
 
 overall though, the plants have balanced out with the natural predators and don't seem nearly affected by pests as they did when they were smaller. thank you for the advice, i will be keeping a close eye on the mulch and also try and raise up my training a bit off the soil.
 
 peace friend :jointsmile:check out my grow log:
 Greenatik\'s Vertical Coco Cab
 
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