ARE ALL MY SEEDS FEMALE???

[NaughtyDreadz]

So I got some wicked Dank seeds, like I ended up with, like, hundreds of seeds from a bag I bought of killer Jack... So, knowing that they could've been male, I decided to plant 40... 36 germinated and ALL of them grew to be healthy females! My Yield wasn't that great because it was my first grow, but the buds were awesome.

Right now I'm growing 3 from the same seeds and I flowered 2 and kept one as a mother in veg. Both those in flower are females!

What I would like to know is, how is this possible??? Am I just lucky, or did I come across some feminized seeds purely on luck??? Also, the possibility of the one I kept in veg to be male is 50%, but what do you think the probability is???

Thanx in advance

-NDZ

NaughtyDreadz Reviewed by NaughtyDreadz on 04-25-2008. ARE ALL MY SEEDS FEMALE??? So I got some wicked Dank seeds, like I ended up with, like, hundreds of seeds from a bag I bought of killer Jack... So, knowing that they could've been male, I decided to plant 40... 36 germinated and ALL of them grew to be healthy females! My Yield wasn't that great because it was my first grow, but the buds were awesome. Right now I'm growing 3 from the same seeds and I flowered 2 and kept one as a mother in veg. Both those in flower are females! What I would like to know is, Rating: 5

[stinkyattic]

Well Hasselhoff... whether you call it 'luck'...
First, that suspected 'male' you have in veg is more than 99% likely to be female. What most likely happened is simple. The grower who grew your Jack may have done one of the following: Let the room get too freakin' hot, had a light leak, or allowed the plants to go over-ripe. This caused at least one female in that room to go hermaphrodite. Since you said you had a wicked lot of seeds in the bag, it may well have been THAT female, because seed concentration on buds in a crop diminishes with increased distance from the pollen source. A female can produce pollen, but she physically CANNOT produce Y chromosomes; therefore, the chromosome pattern XY which is responsible for male gender expression is an impossibility.
That's all well and good with one little problem... she also passes on her likelihood of herming.
So ESPECIALLY with 'feminized' seeds, pay EXTRA close attention to your grow conditions. You must keep a regular photoperiod, with no light leaks, no stress, and no 'hot spots'.

[NaughtyDreadz]

Well Hasselhoff... whether you call it 'luck'...
First, that suspected 'male' you have in veg is more than 99% likely to be female. What most likely happened is simple. The grower who grew your Jack may have done one of the following: Let the room get too freakin' hot, had a light leak, or allowed the plants to go over-ripe. This caused at least one female in that room to go hermaphrodite. Since you said you had a wicked lot of seeds in the bag, it may well have been THAT female, because seed concentration on buds in a crop diminishes with increased distance from the pollen source. A female can produce pollen, but she physically CANNOT produce Y chromosomes; therefore, the chromosome pattern XY which is responsible for male gender expression is an impossibility.
That's all well and good with one little problem... she also passes on her likelihood of herming.
So ESPECIALLY with 'feminized' seeds, pay EXTRA close attention to your grow conditions. You must keep a regular photoperiod, with no light leaks, no stress, and no 'hot spots'.

Hey thanx for the reply and the free mini botany session...

Rest assured that this time I'll be taking all steps and keep a log. Also, besides coming on here, I've got a mentor who is helping me out aswell, however he is not always available...

Good news on the mama, cuz she be thriving...

[stinkyattic]

That's because The Hoff has a definite way with Da Ladies.

[NaughtyDreadz]

That's because The Hoff has a definite way with Da Ladies.

it's all in the chest hairs...

[psychocat]

The natural tendency of most plants is biased towards females as it only takes one male to pollinate 100's or even 1000's of females.

[stinkyattic]

Well, yes and no. You have to think bigger to understand why the male:female ratios shown by cannabis, which come out fairly even, make sense in the whole picture.
A plant's (or any organism's) main goal in life is to perpetuate its species, and for a dioecious plant such as cannabis, holly, gingko, or hops, sexual reproduction depends on having at least one individual of each expressed gender in close enough proximity to pollinate (I'm going to leave out hermaphrodite expression for the moment). So even though it might take only one male to pollinate 5 females (the recommended planting group to make holly trees produce ornamental berries), should that single male die, ALL those females are now rendered unable to reproduce. Another way to look at it is that in an area where germination or seedling survival is low, what if only 2 or 3 individuals survive to breeding age? If the gender ratios are about even, the probability is very high that one of each gender will pop up, and the species is continued in that location for one more year. Look at animals- humans, even. And I don't wanna hear no bits about cultist Texans neither, lol! When there are two genders, it is always satatistically more likely that there will be at least one of each in any given location, no matter how small the population size, when the ratio is 1:1. This is accomplished by having a sex determination system with 2 chromosmes, X and Y, with male gender being controlled by the presence or absence of the Y chromosome.
The herm trait is another safeguard against local extinction when the population dips so low that there might not be one of each gender, or in the unlikely scenario that all individuals of x gender die off. If one of the individuals happens to be able to grow opposite sex parts, breeding can take place after all, and the population survives another season. This is not only seen as hermaphrotidism in cannabis; a few fish and reptile species can actually undergo complete REVERSAL in those situations!
The 99%+ female expression in the offspring of a herm plant are just a byproduct of the missinh Y chromosome... that number is not really related to any sort of evolved survival mechanism.

[Perp]

Well, yes and no. You have to think bigger to understand why the male:female ratios shown by cannabis, which come out fairly even, make sense in the whole picture.
A plant's (or any organism's) main goal in life is to perpetuate its species, and for a dioecious plant such as cannabis, holly, gingko, or hops, sexual reproduction depends on having at least one individual of each expressed gender in close enough proximity to pollinate (I'm going to leave out hermaphrodite expression for the moment). So even though it might take only one male to pollinate 5 females (the recommended planting group to make holly trees produce ornamental berries), should that single male die, ALL those females are now rendered unable to reproduce. Another way to look at it is that in an area where germination or seedling survival is low, what if only 2 or 3 individuals survive to breeding age? If the gender ratios are about even, the probability is very high that one of each gender will pop up, and the species is continued in that location for one more year. Look at animals- humans, even. And I don't wanna hear no bits about cultist Texans neither, lol! When there are two genders, it is always satatistically more likely that there will be at least one of each in any given location, no matter how small the population size, when the ratio is 1:1. This is accomplished by having a sex determination system with 2 chromosmes, X and Y, with male gender being controlled by the presence or absence of the Y chromosome.
The herm trait is another safeguard against local extinction when the population dips so low that there might not be one of each gender, or in the unlikely scenario that all individuals of x gender die off. If one of the individuals happens to be able to grow opposite sex parts, breeding can take place after all, and the population survives another season. This is not only seen as hermaphrotidism in cannabis; a few fish and reptile species can actually undergo complete REVERSAL in those situations!
The 99%+ female expression in the offspring of a herm plant are just a byproduct of the missinh Y chromosome... that number is not really related to any sort of evolved survival mechanism.

That goes a long way to help me prove my theory: Germans love David Hasselhoff.