Light Hermies males and females

[Nosehit]

The DNA of a plant, as the DNA of a human being can be altered by a constant contact of chemicals, or radiations. The feminized seeds are made by 2 ways (i know and IM SURE IT WORKS) taking seeds threw a chemical prosses, or putting them under a radiation prosses, thast why they are much more expensive than regular seeds.

You cant change the sex of a plant just with magic, what youll create is a mutation of the plant, and maybe make it develope the other gender flowers, BUT ONLY WITH A CHEMICAL PROCESS, OR RADIATION....

Dont fool yourself with idiotic sayings, its like if a girl would grow a penis if at night she gets her feet at 45°C every night for a couple years... THIS IS JUST ABSURD!!!

if you think the light or something so absurd as this will make a mutation on your plant, justr try it, over and over again, youll see how stupid your ideas are

First of all we were talking about plants your right a girl isn't going to grow a penis. However a slight deviation in the temp. of developing alligator eggs will certainly change the sex. So curb the 'tude brain trust.
Second, I said spraying a plant is not going to change its DNA (and were speaking about the sex not simple mutation) I never said anything about the seeds!
Third, Stress can most certainly cause male flowers to develop and it has nothing to do with genetics, alot of times plants will develop male flowers at the end of the flowering cycle, how do you explain this?
And there are many animals that can alter their own sex as a means of perpetuating the species.

[Nosehit]

i'm not saying you are right or wrong marimbas cause i'm not super educated on that and i know you weren't talking to me personally, this is just a general comment. but i thought it was a bit "not nice" to call other's ideas stupid, whether they are wrong or not. sometimes "stupid" ideas are little seedlings to creative ideas,,,, but that can be hindered if someone bashes someone else saying what they are saying is stupid.
you are probably right scientifically. i have learned alot from this forum in the past couple months ONLY by listening to many right and wrong and in between answers and researching on my own to figure out which sound more correct to ME. that is what is great about this forum and i know you have helped me in the past. thank you. hope you dont' take offense to me popping in like this, just felt the urge to reply to that.

Don't let it discourage you, he's not entirely right himself

[marimbas]

Nosehit dont take it personal, you got your opinion, i got mine...
Kuri as well, you got an opinion and thats well accepted, as long as someone elses thread is not taken pesonal, or a particular discution.
Im simply sure about the sex of this plants, i know they can develop a mutation or a gender variation, but after a very uncommon situation, not with a very normal situation...

[Nosehit]

Nosehit dont take it personal, you got your opinion, i got mine...
Kuri as well, you got an opinion and thats well accepted, as long as someone elses thread is not taken pesonal, or a particular discution.
Im simply sure about the sex of this plants, i know they can develop a mutation or a gender variation, but after a very uncommon situation, not with a very normal situation...

No worries, I agree with some of what you say. But I am not stating an opinion, it may in fact be an exception to the rule I don't know for sure, I do know that I have seen this on more than one occasion.

It has been my limited experience that a hermie will show female flowers for a couple of weeks before the male flowers start to show. Is this normally how it happens? I ask because I've only had 2 plants go hermie and both displayed this behavior.

[marimbas]

normaly its the oposite, youll get male flowers first then female, but after all a hermie is a hermie and may go the other way, i dont think that what happend to you was because you caused it... I think those were predisposed plants, what i mean that the mother seeds were hermies...

[phillykid420]

I think it can. Plants aren't human. Frogs have been known to switch sex when there aren't any females around. Some will switch sex and become female (or it might be the other way around, but they can switch sex). There's a species of crabs that start out male, and throughout their lives they change sex several times. Yes, I think sex is determined by genetics, but I also believe that environmental factors can affect the gene expression (aka phenotype). There are lots of examples of environmental factors that affect the expression of genes.

Most cannabis plants probably have a certain level of predisposition towards hermie. It's probably due to natural selection and evolution. Remember, cannabis like all other has evolved to propagate it's genetic material (that's why sex feels so good for us humans, it ensures propagation of the species). A plant that has the ability to go hermie and self pollinate stands a better chance of survival than one that does not.

Some of course, due to selection of breeding stock are more hermie resistant (ie C99), and some just naturally hermie even if given good environment (thai's show this trait).
One little mishap in a light cycle won't or shouldn't ruin everything though.

[the happy chappie]

hi all, i have found that muterlating a plant can do this , ( overtriming ) i know what you say about if its gonna be a hermie then its gonna be one and that is true, however during my early grow days i did hundreds of various experiments including trimming to force flower increase, these were not just random experiments but calculated and logged over a long time, i can say with a modest amount of knowledge that i did produce plants that showed hermie features from mothers that were know to be relible female stock, i also found that certain deseases can premote male gender on an otherwise reliable female, as for light altering a plants gender i cant say with any certainty but i do suspect it may happen, , i have had quality girls that have had shown male gender when my lights have gone up the wall, if you can bring male gender to a female plant by trimming, desease, heavy and feed starvation cycles, and by simply spraying with a certain sollution, then it may well do this under light stress, well thats what i think, i hope i aint rattled anyone but i just felt that i could say what i know, all the best to all of ya, i will be sitting here should you wish to reply

[BobBong]

You can have both types of Hermaphrodite... Natural (meaning from seed.. it'll grow both flowers) AND forced Hermaphrodite.

This is done by purposely interupting the dark period with an hour of light...

for example.. on 12/12 you'd be off for 5.5 hours then turn the lights on for an hour.. then off again for another 5.5 hours..

do this for say a week - 2 weeks.. you WILL affect the sex of the plant... you CAN turn a female plant into hermaphordite by fucking with the light cycle at night...

I'll take Mel Franks & Ed Renthals PROFESSIONAL growing guide for 1000 alex...

Don't act like you know everything marimbas... because i'm positive you don't, try reading a book, you'd be suprised at what you learn

[marimbas]

Thanks Bob you have showed everyone you are a total pro, and that you know everything about growing cannabis.....

Chappie you are right, on must of the things you say, i totaly agree, thats what ive been trying to say, you can mutate the plan or afect the gender, but not with light...

Even so i would say that mustly all hermaphrodites are caused because of the genetic of the seed...

[Sensi Super Skunk]

It is common sense that altering the photoperiod of cannabis will force it to become hermaphrodic. That plant does this because it thinks that it's survival chances are at risk, so it grows both sexes to produce seeds, and thus continues it's species. Most of these things are just common sense. Just pick up a book published by any reliable grower, like BobBong has just said. Common sense.

Peace