Clinton Joins McCain on Gas-Tax Holiday; Obama Opposes

[Psycho4Bud]

This summer Im thinking of buying an old diesel and converting it to run on free french fry oil. Best investment ever

I've been looking at the same thing. Just like with growing, this needs alot of research. Here's a link I've been checking out:
Make your own biodiesel: Journey to Forever

Have a good one!:s4:

Psycho4Bud Reviewed by Psycho4Bud on 04-24-2008. Clinton Joins McCain on Gas-Tax Holiday; Obama Opposes Policy differences between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have been far and few, but a new one emerged on Monday over a proposed gas tax holiday. Obama says heâ??s against while Clinton says sheâ??s in favor, putting her on the same side as John McCain, who proposed such a holiday last week. Gas prices could hit $4 this summer, raising the ire of voters and putting pressure on presidential candidates to promise immediate action. Speaking on Larry King Live on Monday night, Clinton Rating: 5

[zeitgeist]

Thanks! Added to my favorites

Ill have sooo much weed money!!!! HAHAhA:thumbsup:

[human8]

yeah, throw a crack addict a rock that always helps...not.

[epxroot]

Here in Indiana we went from paying around 33 to 37 cents per gallon in the 70's and I can remember still getting gas for under a dollar in 99. The price jump in gas from 2000 to 08 is insane! Screw their gas holiday! I want prices to drop or get us off this modern day motor. We can put a man into space, but we can't get off this modern day oil consuming engine?:wtf: Something just doesn't make sense.

[zeitgeist]

So I found out a guy already invented an engine that runs off of water. He was convieniently poisened and all his work confiscated though

[hanayama]

Instead of this ploy for votes, more money and research needs to be put into research for other alternatives like hydrogen power.
Oil is gonna eventually run out in a few decades so we might as well get the ball rolling and stop procrastinating

guess how hydorgen is made... ill give you a hint
its made using oil

I dont understand why yours or my government dont just say ok car companies you want to sell cars in north america then they have to be plug in electric cars.The technology is there we do have plug in electric cars that work just fine.So instead of giving our money to the arabs we could keep our money in our own country and help ourselves.CAN you imagine the shock on our arab friends when we say sorry no more oil for us go shove it..Im paying 5$ a gallon up here in canada its fucking ridiculouse...its got to stop

smells like socialism to me. and FUCK THAT.


how about we start drilling our own land.
the problem with alot of americans is that they dont give a fuck where the oil comes from, as long as it doesnt come from us. that would be bad for the caribou.
were ok with drilling the balls out of the desert half a world away, but not anwar.(the oil would make the snow look icky)

we need to drill in alaska and anywhere else we can (within reason)

and in the meantime, work or increasing the fuel effeciency of our cars( oil would last ALOT longer if we were rocking 125 mpg) and realistic alternative energies.

it seems like people are way over focused on just their car.

what about the house?
solar and wind turbine technology is becoming alot more accessible.
imagine if, through a combination of solar panels and wind turbines you could be completely off the energy grid.
or even get a monthly check from the energy company b/c you produced more energy than you consumed

THEN buying an electric car would be a good option, b/c it would run for free off your own energy source

i think people forget how much energy is used by things BESIDES cars.
lets have a lil broader view of this instead of trying to do everything at once.
we cant just change the way we get fuel from the same source

early morning stoned rant... but thats my :twocents:

[hanayama]

and that picture of Obama is fucking HILARIOUS Psycho.
very awesome, might become my background on my computer

[jamesia]

We're in the middle of a 3 trillion dollar war. That's $3,000,000,000,000 ... Now is not the time to be cutting any taxes at all, it's just plain fiscal irresponsibility. Besides, this is simply a game. Taxes will be cut on gas over the summer, only to be raised on something else... or worse, more money will be borrowed. The money WILL be collected regardless of how much McCain panders to people trying to get something for nothing... i.e. Republicans that want a 3 trillion dollar war and less taxes. How about McCain be a REAL Republican and insist that the government stop subsidizing oil? McCain is nothing but another corporate welfare moron.

I didn't vote for Bush, and he's got the worst approval rate since polling was invented, but we're all in this together. We can't keep pulling out the credit card and borrowing more money than we already do currently.

Name me one other time in history when we cut taxes during a war. The concept is insane. In fact, the income tax was started BECAUSE of war: the Civil War. The federal government attempted to start the income tax earlier but was defeated... during the War of 1812.

[jamesia]

guess how hydorgen is made... ill give you a hint
its made using oil

There's multiple ways of producing hydrogen. The technology for making hydrogen from solar power (or any other type of renewable energy) has been around for decades. You could literally manufacture your own hydrogen in your house and power everything in your house, including your car. I really value my independence, so I really like this idea.

GM has mobilized half of it's fuel cell research staff to begin production for fuel cell cars. Once they're being mass produced, price will drop drastically. We're talking the next few years.

And what would be better than good ol' Made in the USA energy?

[hanayama]

There's multiple ways of producing hydrogen. The technology for making hydrogen from solar power (or any other type of renewable energy) has been around for decades. You could literally manufacture your own hydrogen in your house and power everything in your house, including your car. I really value my independence, so I really like this idea.

GM has mobilized half of it's fuel cell research staff to begin production for fuel cell cars. Once they're being mass produced, price will drop drastically. We're talking the next few years.

And what would be better than good ol' Made in the USA energy?

did not know that
i just remember reading somewhere that the most effective way to make hydrogen right now is by using oil.

im not saying that hydrogen wont work.
................pause for joint rolling........................

i just think its too early to "put all our eggs in one basket"
i think we need to greatly increase our fuel efficiency and then see what works best.

we have enough oil to last us a couple more decades at least, im not saying we wait until were out, i just think that time alone will tell what our future is. time spent researching and debating and experimenting.
not time spent having governments tell me what kind of car to drive. Forcing a decision on all of us.
Capitalism....let the market/people decide. this shit works, i swear!

i will say tho, that hydrogen looks rather nice, considering the only emissions are water...i like that