Growing ethics

[Dutch Pimp]

I just found these and moved them to 'outdoor'. I'm interested in discussing this concept. In 'A Grower's Code of Ethics' posted as a sticky in the main grow information lounge, I got into that a bit.

I had to bum rush these Kansas City baggie seed plants outdoors, due to circumstances beyond my control. They were under 400HID and 3+ weeks into flowering, when the situation went south.

Anyways, after one week into outdoor life, their doing OK. I assume their too far into flowering to revert back to veg?...if they do......oh well...

I hit them with a super dose of bloom nutes (10-52-10) and said goodbye...good luck..:smokin:...any comments?..I never did this before. Their in 3 gallon pots. It's only late April. So far they have survived 42-45 degree temps at night.

Their on an absentee land owners property, that has had the property for sale for the past 10 years. They actually owe me a flavor, about once a year people show up from the city wanting to see the property, but they can't get to it without crossing my property. I don't mind, I tell the city MILF's to come back without the high heeled sneakers and short skirts and I will show them around and allow them to park on my property...:rastabanna:...it's just raw wooded land.

[benvortec]

Hey man, i say fuck the other side! Plant that shit, if the cops are willing to do an extensive search they'll proally put up cameras and shit to find who is actually cultivating the crop not just jump to put the landowner in jail. Atleast here in Kentucky that's how it works usually they'll conspire with the landowner to catch the growers because there is so much guerilla growing. But grow that shit and keep it as low key as possible. best of luck and be as safe as possible :thumbsup::jointsmile:

[Opie Yutts]

I really appreciate everyone's input on this subject, and thank you to the mod that found my original thread and merged the two. And thanks for choosing to not delete them.

I do know what happens around here when outdoor guerrilla grows are discovered. At least that happened to a neighbor. My neighbor has about 150 acres, of which about 1/2 is forest. The cops came and took all the plants once the owner discovered the grow. There was no equipment except a few containers. Nobody was charged since the culprit was never discovered. Seems about right.

I think as long as you don't do obviously stupid stuff, it's a fairly safe endeavor in which both grower and land owner will not be adversely affected. Still thinking and looking for grow areas. More input would be great.

When I'm growing outdoors I:
- have several entry points to the grow to help eliminate paths.
- sweep away foot prints and remove incriminating evidence.
- compromise between camouflaged and full sun plants so they are harder to see from the air.
- spread out plant positions to look natural instead of like a crop.
- duck under some brush and hold completely still if an aircraft approaches.
- use liquid fence. It really seems to keep away rabbits and deer.
- try to grow inside a brier patch or some difficult brush, with a small tunnel for entry.

[moshmonkey]

When I'm growing outdoors I:
- have several entry points to the grow to help eliminate paths.
- sweep away foot prints and remove incriminating evidence.
- compromise between camouflaged and full sun plants so they are harder to see from the air.
- spread out plant positions to look natural instead of like a crop.
- duck under some brush and hold completely still if an aircraft approaches.
- use liquid fence. It really seems to keep away rabbits and deer.
- try to grow inside a brier patch or some difficult brush, with a small tunnel for entry.

good advice, but i find it funny how most of this stuff doesn't apply for me (in Ireland) as most people where i live wouldnt even know what it looks like, no one goes out looking for grows, the idea of cannabis growing outdoor in Ireland is mad to alot of people here, the Irish Gardai have only a few helicopters and they are all used down the south of the country, so no worries here, for an ideal grow place in my area, just make sure no one goes there, the end imp:

[stinkyattic]

Hey Opie, glad to help. This is a subject that I feel strongly about too. Actually your posts were deleted I assume because of the trespassing issue, but in light of the fact that it's a topic that really should be discussed openly, I found, restored, and moved them here.

[Opie Yutts]

... the idea of cannabis growing outdoor in Ireland is mad to alot of people here

Any idea why this is? Is the climate wrong, or are there just not a lot of horticulturists? Or not a lot of pot-heads? Sounds like you've got the ideal outdoor grow area.

[Opie Yutts]

Hey Opie, glad to help. This is a subject that I feel strongly about too. Actually your posts were deleted I assume because of the trespassing issue, but in light of the fact that it's a topic that really should be discussed openly, I found, restored, and moved them here.

Thanks stinky. Always the wise one.

[FrostAie]

cant beat ohio for growing unless your in humboldt county california

[SnSstealth]

i would have to agree on the public orperty, or i have done it on corporate property...I tend to look for city property or down here, i got a buddy that i canoe out to a small island and check his plants..thats the ultimate if you can get there...If you cant grow on your own property, i would say dont put someones else in jeopardy..bad juju and shit...but fuck the man!...lol any corporate, city, public...i am stoner rambling.........
WT

[dgsgandalf]

I don't see anything wrong with growing on other people's land, especially if they don't use MJ ('cause that would look suspicious). If they find the patch, they have several options. They can destroy it themselves, and that's the end of it. They can report it to the cops who will come out and destroy it, maybe question the land owner a bit, then that's the end of it. Or they can leave it alone because they used to be a hippie back in the 70's or something like that, and that's the end of it.

The police cannot convict anyone of a crime without evidence, and if someone doesn't know ganja is being grown on their property, there's a pretty damn good chance there won't be any evidence to convict them of a crime.

I'm growing on someone elses land, and if the worst should happen and they get arrested for it (I would probably hear about it in the newspaper or through the grapevine or something) i would probably go turn myself in and free them of any penalty. The chances of this happening are so remote that i'm not even worried.

Bottom line, i don't think there's any solid ethical principle that decides this issue. Growing is illegal whichever way you look at it, and thus unethical. Determining how unethical something is almost seems like a waste of effort. You have to determine for yourself whether you're willing to break to law and grow pot, like a yes/no question, then determining where is simply multiple choice.

My humble opinion...