And rub it around. Don't be afraid to use a little force- seeds are round and don't crush easily. It's not hard to do! Dry bud works best (you can add a couple drops of water to the flakes to rehydrate them later in the baggie). If you have 2 big strainers, use the one with the bigger mesh for joints. Tiny tea strainers will give you powder that makes runny joints , but is great in a vape. :thumbsup:- Granny:hippy: