Quote Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
How soon they forget.......mass graves, torture chambers, people having their hands cut off for not trading with Saddam currency. :wtf:

Have a good one!:s4:
Yep, I expected this to come up. But don't worry P4B, I didn't forget.


My issue here is the they're justifying the 2003 invasion with actions from the early 90's and down; of which we already declared war and smacked his ass down for it (twice). The slaughter of tens of thousands of Kurds was a horrific, unforgiveable thing, but you can't use the pretex for a long-past war as justification for every new one. If liberating Iraqi's from torture was what this is really about, GW should have been on TV demanding that Saddam change their laws and practices, not disarming the weapons that nobody could ever find.

And yes, Saddam had his torture chambers and I hate that too. But there are many dictators, both of greater threat to America and torturing far more people, who would have made more sense to topple. When it comes right down to it: terrible as Saddam was, their situation was still far better than anywhere from 81,000 - 1 Million people dead, 2,000,000 displaced, God knows how many injured, and a whole region destabalised.


The argument here isn't about whether "the world is better without Saddam", it's about whether the Iraqi's and all of us are better with the consequences of invasion. Sometimes the solution to a problem aint so simple as bombing the shit outa the bad guys.
Gandalf_The_Grey Reviewed by Gandalf_The_Grey on . Iraq War a "major debacle, in doubt" Pentagon institute calls Iraq war 'a major debacle' with outcome 'in doubt' - Yahoo! News But but but but..... "The world is better off without Saddam Hussein." And America would be better off having saved $450 billion, 4,000 US lives, 7,500 security-forces lives, at least 82,000 Iraqi lives, their very international reputation, a balancing counter-force against Iran, the undiverted millitary forces that need to stand against real threats, not having had AlQaeda's recruitment Rating: 5