Second Season Outdoor Multi-Strain Grow

[jakezking]

Delta9Haze420, I have the same problem with my single plant. She started flowering after only about 1 month of vegitative stage. Since my grow is fairly simple at this point - only MG soil and some Superthrive every other watering - I am thinking my early flowering is due to only about 10 hours of direct sunlight per day with remaining sunlight being indirect, shaded by my house. Seems like a few folks have provided me the above answer. It plainly appears you know well more than I about growing, but thought I'd toss my bits onto the table. I'll be anxiously following this thread now, as I am hoping to find an answer to allow me to get more from my 1 plant.

Good luck, my friend!

[Delta9Haze420]

I am thinking my early flowering is due to only about 10 hours of direct sunlight per day with remaining sunlight being indirect, shaded by my house.

Good luck with your grow jake! I was dismayed a bit to say the least when I saw some of these preflowers, however, most of them turned female, and most survived, so I am withholding any major complaints at this time :thumbsup:...

These are also exposed to ~10 hours direct light per day, however indirect lighting is usually enough to maintain a long enough photoperiod to prevent flowering (in the past I've never come across this problem with indirect light as long as there was *enough* indirect light). The previous grow with Kali Mist as the primary strain was produced similarly with the same natural lighting conditions (although at an alternate location until the last month of veg and into flowering). As mentioned I plan on increasing the photoperiod by reducing the indirect light (thus increasing direct) as much as I can (though this is tough due to the aforementioned stealthing techniques I touched on earlier in the thread). It looks like it may be a compromise between stealth and sunlight...

In regard to the leaves, does anyone have any sugestions or experience to give me an idea why the fan leaves (and flower leaves) have reverted back to 3 leaflets each as opposed to 5-7? This is more of a problem on a few of the younger DP, but has hit the NL as well. My best guess is that stress on the plants caused them to revert to early lifecycle production of fan leaves. This probably due to Mg problems as well as lighting and pH. I'll stay away from going off the deep and and saying they all had point mutations in their DNA causing growth inversion for the time .

Finally, anyone want to suggest the best way to lower the pH in a soil medium considering the plants are prematurely flowering and recovering from strain?

Thanks all!

[Shovelhandle]

I almost remember <G> when I tried to reveg an indoor plant outdoors it had smooth unserated leaves with three fingers. I don't know what this has to do with your grow though. Good luck.

Shov

[Delta9Haze420]

I almost remember <G> when I tried to reveg an indoor plant outdoors it had smooth unserated leaves with three fingers. I don't know what this has to do with your grow though. Good luck.

Shov

*scratching head* ... ???

[Delta9Haze420]

Just for fun in this thread from now on I'd like to tally how stoned everyone is when they post (if they are infact stoned)...

//slightly baked


I am leaning toward taking a few clones from this grow to go through winter as well as adding a few late seedlings... We'll see what happens...

[stinkyattic]

Reversion to a lower leaf number happens under stress or during flower time.
Read the sticky in plant problems on flushing. That's how to lower your soil pH. You'll need some pH down, or whatever you can scavenge... Don't use HCl. HNO3 or H3PO4 are correct. Same for pH up; NaOH is harmful and KOH is good. What do the 3 'good' ones have in common? You know the answer to this one.
Let me guess... does your cloaking method involve crab grass? lol! If not, get it out of your pots PRONTO.
For the record: I rarely post stoned. Medicated to a very low level, perhaps, but if I wouldn't go to work like that, I won't try to answer grow questions like that. To me, it's the same.
Try not to over-think your outdoor plants. You still have 5 months to harvest. The flower response, even if it IS a false start and not just preflowering, isn't anything to worry about. There are 3 months to the time when outdoor plants flower in earnest; relax!

[Delta9Haze420]

Here are a couple of apical shots from the top of a lady NL. This is what I meant when I didn't understand why they started to flower in a summer setting outdoors in midlatitudes... You can see the early flowering; however, since things were changed a bit, they haven't seemed to flower any further (although their growth is also quite slow). It is almost as if they are half in flower, half in veg, and can't decide (which could very well be the case I suppose). I am assuming this is due to the stress of putting so much energy into flowering before it was time along with the nute problems aforementioned (now solved to the best of my knowledge). Hopefully they will revert back to mostly veg and get a little taller...

[jakezking]

I thought I was high, until I read your upper level discussion - I had to lay on my back upon the earth and look up into the clouds too witness your banter. I may have gleaned something from your exchange, but it may have just been the fresh-baked southern-style biscuit with butter and buttery syrup.

I'm still following your grow, bro. Sounds like I needed to flush my bucket and watch my ph too.

Aloha

[Delta9Haze420]

I thought I was high, until I read your upper level discussion - I had to lay on my back upon the earth and look up into the clouds too witness your banter. I may have gleaned something from your exchange, but it may have just been the fresh-baked southern-style biscuit with butter and buttery syrup.

I'm still following your grow, bro. Sounds like I needed to flush my bucket and watch my ph too.

Aloha

Haha - well thanks, and sometimes those biscuits are exactly what I'm diggin for (sound pretty damn good right now infact)! Stink and I can go a little overboard; it all comes from too much schooling :jointsmile:. It tends to help us (especially her) explain the science to people I think, but sometimes we just end up in what aren't much more than inside jokes to chemists/biologists/etc resulting in mostly unintelligible giberish . I had a good laugh over it though, and she seems to like taking those shots with me in our chats and emails - always a pleasure...

Best luck on your Queen and others, I am quite excitedly watching the logs.

More pics soon, some with detailed images of the funky leaf morphology I am starting to notice, as well as some verticle growth measurements for comparison to what would be expected. Maybe even a couple shots from the archive just for eye candy if I have the time to dig a few out! Good luck all and "I say 'Of,' you say 'A,' I say 'Revolution,' you say JAH!"

May Jah be with me - and watch over us tonight...

[stinkyattic]

^^GREAT track^^^

Got yer email; wish I had more time to reply- I'm in the process of breaking down a grow that HAS to go :abduct: by the first week in July. Nothing like driving around with a car full of live to really brighten your weekend and make ya feel like you just swallowed a handful of very active worms... I swear my life is starting to resemble a whole SEASON of Weeds, but with significantly less attractive actors, and more plot twists. Arrgh. Check your messages; I'll catch ya in a sec.