Quote Originally Posted by Nailhead
There is no single, universally accepted definition of terrorism.

So by using the US governments own definition of what exactly it means to be a terrorist, we can clearly see that, by US military actions in Vietnam, we were conducting terrorist activities. Thus, McCain is a terrorist himself.
I appreciate the time and effort put into this post, but you do realize you've contradicted yourself:

The term "terrorism" means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents.
Hrm.. Bill Ayers sets off bombs in places where noncombatant targets were.

I agree we shouldn't of been in vietnam, but they were armed Combatants.

Secondly maybe you should also look up the general definition of war.


Main Entry:
1war Listen to the pronunciation of 1war
Pronunciation:
\ˈwȯr\
Function:
noun
Usage:
often attributive
Etymology:
Middle English werre, from Anglo-French werre, guerre, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German werra strife; akin to Old High German werran to confuse
Date:
12th century

1 a (1): a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations (2): a period of such armed conflict (3): state of war b: the art or science of warfare c (1)obsolete : weapons and equipment for war (2)archaic : soldiers armed and equipped for war2 a: a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism b: a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a particular end <a class war> <a war against disease> c: variance, odds 3

We declared war on vietnam. It's not like no one knew it was going to happen. Terrorists don't announce their activities or bombings until after the fact.

Obama doesn't seem so evil now, does he? :thumbsup:
I've never said Obama was evil, Pyscho4bud never even said Obama was evil. What was said is that when looking at candidates you have to look more than what you see on the surface. If nothing else why don't you look at Obama's voting record or lack there of. Check out the loads of NV.

Combine that with the company he keeps and defends... and well it might not mean he's a bad person but does it mean I necessarily want him running this country. Honestly in this crapshoot election where we have 3 turd balls competing against each other, I'm not sure it would really make a difference who got elected.

I've stated I don't like any of the candidates, Pyscho4bud has stated the reasons why they don't like Obama but you seem to be blindly defending Obama with no reason backing why you support him.

Let's forget this mudslinging mumbo jumbo going on between obama and hillary. All of that aside, take a look at obama's voting record. Do you really want to vote for someone who seems like they just don't care one way or another?

I found the following pretty humorous considering these bills are some of the things Barrack Obama believes in and stands for:

Barrack was a No Vote for reauthorizing or expanding the State childrens health insurance program.

Pretty sure he's pro-choice; figured he would've voted one way or another.. yet here's another no vote:

Vote to adopt an amendment that prohibits funds in the bill from being granted to organizations that perform abortions when a woman’s life is not in danger, unless the organization is a hospital.

ahhhh.. who cares about the farmers in the country.. No vote. Even more interesting is that the vote was 48-47. Barrack could've tied the votes up if he had voted the other way.

Vote to adopt an amendment that would grant subsidies to part-time farmers, ranchers, or foresters with an average adjusted gross income that does not exceed $250,000 and to full-time farmers, ranchers, or foresters with an average adjusted gross income that does not exceed $750,000 and would increase funding for certain programs.

Wow.. I can't believe he voted.. even more importantly I can't believe he voted no on the following:


Vote to pass an amendment that would prohibit undocumented immigrants convicted of aggravated felonies, domestic violence, stalking, violation of protection orders, crimes against children, or crimes relating to the illegal purchase or sale of firearms, from gaining legal status.

Let's promote across the border crime; even better let's promote crim, domestic violence, crime against children. Let's encourage these type of people to become citizens in our own country. :thumbsup:


fyi: You can find equally interesting data on all 3 candidates. I personally don't like any of the candidates but you better believe I won't blindly show support for a candidate just because they APPEAR to be less evil. Everyone.. and I mean EVERYONE should be going by a person's history. As far as I'm concerned the party they're associated with should not even be a issue.