Quote Originally Posted by jamesia
Ayers committed the crime when Obama was like... 8 years old.

This whole bit of guilt by association would mean everyone - including you and me - would be unfit for office. Ron Paul takes donations from white supremacist and KKK groups... does that mean that he needs to quit running for office because of it?
So if you knew someone who was in the KKK, but is no longer.. however had been heard saying definitively that they absolutely hate black people and that they don't regret beating/killing them.. that their only regret is that they wished they could do more. Regardless of when they committed the crime, knowing that they still hold those sentiments would you really want to have that type of person in your life?

The point wasn't when he committed the crime. I can't fault Obama for that.. like you said he was 8 years old. What I can fault him for is running for Presidency and surrounding himself with less than patriotic people. People who want to do harm to this country. I do not think I would want a man like that in power.

That's not to say that he would do anything to harm this country, but when running for presidency everything is up for review.

If you've ever gotten top secret clearance or any form of government security clearance you would learn that it doesn't matter, everything is up for review including the company you keep.

The difference between Rob Paul and Obama is that there was plenty of Evidence showing that Ron Paul did not make those statements. It was in a news release letter for his supporters that was written by another person under Ron Pauls name. This had been gone over a few times by the media and I'm surprised you chose such a weak comparison for your argument.

On the other hand Ayers flat out said he wished he could've done more.. that he doesn't regret setting bombs. You can not compare the two at all.

It's more important to hear what exactly these people plan to do when they're in office. Do they plan on seeking medical marijuana legislation? Do they want to take all my money in taxes? What are they going to do with social security? etc etc etc ... I could give a rat's ass what they do in church, I'm an atheist and I think it's all bunk anyway.
Did you not see the debate between Clinton and Hillary. Both candidates looked like bumbling fools. I don't want McCain to win.. really I don't want any of these candidates to win but it looks like the second election in a row where we are forced to choose from sub-par candidates.


"Doesn't elite mean 'good?' Is that not something we're looking for in a president anymore? ... I know elite is a bad word in politics. You want to go bowling and throw back a few beers. But the job you're applying for---if you get it and it goes well---they might carve your head into a mountain. If you don't actually think you're better than us, then what the fuck are you doing? ... not only do I want an elite president, I want someone who is embarrassingly superior to me."
---Jon Stewart
The Stewart show is meant for political comedy entertainment. I'm sorry you take it seriously. Do you believe Colbert is serious too. Hate to burst your bubble but Colbert is a registered democrat.

I do no want an Elitist president no more than I want a sub par president. I want someone who see's what the majority of america (middle class) sees. I want a president who can handle foreign affairs through diplomacy instead of through aggressive acts. There are many things that I want; unfortunatley I don't think any of these candidates will be able to deliver. I'll have to choose between the lesser of two evils when the time comes.