Quote Originally Posted by PureEvil760
k ill take a shot at this btw god does exist I dont just believe..its fact. proof is inside yourself but 'god' forbid u take a look.

P1: Yes god has zomg ALWAYS existed, the human percieves time therefore..it seems like a long ass time, but there is no such thing as time. Time is a human created idea which stemed from the earth and sun relationship.

P2: before the present..? yes its always been the same moment there is no before or after.

P3: Not sure what you mean..only earth exists? the universe is infinate as far as we know it is simply not logical to believe humans are the only form of life.

P4: ..scroll up 1 P

P5: Where the hell did u get this idea its so lacking..

P6: Yup.

P7: Again time does'nt exist its a human created illusion.

P8: ok this was repetitive and pointless.
a few thoughts back for you...

1. time very much so does exist (at least according to modern science). it is the fourth dimension of our universe (length, height, depth, time). now this is not synonymous with time as in 60 seconds, 24 hours, 365 days... you are correct that those are periods of perceived time decided upon by humans.

time is an actual dimension along with length, height, and depth that together make up the very "fabric" of our universe. time therefore is subject to the Theory of General Relativity (one of those things Einstein thought up, crazy guy! and is relative to one's perception. meaning that time can stretch or shrink just like a rubber band. i mentioned this in my first post so i won't overdue the point, but time very much so does exist.

2. your p2 thought is very interesting. i hold similar spiritual beliefs to the principle that as a "spiritual being" (for lack of a better word) there is not past or future, but only present. there is no tomorrow for when tomorrow comes you will find that it is actually the present. it is a very empowering and proactive outlook on life that has changed my life for the positive in many ways. i believe that our "spirits" are home to an existence that is timeless hence why we experience the phenomena of there only being "the present" though we indwell a place that is subject to time. it is kind of a messy tangle to comprehend really. the reality of this existence we know as our universe has time.

3. your p3 point is at odds with modern science again. the universe is finite. it has a total mass and shape. it is expanding and something infinite cannot expand because it is all by definition.

4. i don't think anything Reg said was pointless... something someone is working out is not pointless just because it is not refined or complete yet. my view of things is not complete or perfect either.