HTG $100 400 Watt HPS

[jackforest]

http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct...roductID=53168

Is this just a cheap sale? Will this light work well for growing four plants?

jackforest Reviewed by jackforest on 04-09-2008. HTG $100 400 Watt HPS http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=53168 Is this just a cheap sale? Will this light work well for growing four plants? Rating: 5

[Mr. Clandestine]

That's a very good price for a very nice compact system. I'd jump on it, if I were you. No telling how long it'll go for that price before being bumped back up.

[jackforest]

Purchased. Can't wait to get rid of these fucking CFL's.

[daihashi]

Purchased. Can't wait to get rid of these fucking CFL's.

bleh!!! that's too bad

I was really going to advocate for you to spend $20 more and get a system where the ballast is seperate from the hood/light.

htg sells 400watt hps systems with remote ballasts for $119 which would've been much better as you can put the ballast outside your grow area and reduce heat.

Might want to give them a call tomorrow. They've got great customer service and would probably change your order for you without any problems if you asked them.

:thumbsup:

[daihashi]

That's a very good price for a very nice compact system. I'd jump on it, if I were you. No telling how long it'll go for that price before being bumped back up.

Actually I think this is a new product. Their standard 400 watt hps has sold for $119. This one came recently within the last 4-5 weeks. I'm assuming it's a lower end product and will remain at that price.

I wouldn't urge anyone to jump on it for the simple fact that you can pay $20 more and get a remote ballast. Far more ideal for a grow room unless you live in a very cold area.

[jackforest]

Hah, I knew there would be many, "Oh no, you should have..."

Unfortunately, I'm being loaned this money and bargained at this exact price barely. I need a job. That might have been nice to have the ballast seperate, I was a little skeptical of that feature but it will work to make enough crop to buy another light of better quality.

Thanks for the advice. I just don't have the extra 20 as silly as it sounds. I need alight as soon as possible. My rubbermaid idea is turning and kicking me in the ass with the space issue. I cannot wait to turn my entire closet into a grow space.

[daihashi]

Hah, I knew there would be many, "Oh no, you should have..."

Unfortunately, I'm being loaned this money and bargained at this exact price barely. I need a job. That might have been nice to have the ballast seperate, I was a little skeptical of that feature but it will work to make enough crop to buy another light of better quality.

Thanks for the advice. I just don't have the extra 20 as silly as it sounds. I need alight as soon as possible. My rubbermaid idea is turning and kicking me in the ass with the space issue. I cannot wait to turn my entire closet into a grow space.

You can't sell a few games to gamestop/eb games to get 20 bucks? Or sell a few clones to other umm *ahem* Medical Marijuana patients at 5 bucks a piece?

It just seems a shame to spend twice the money when it could be done right the first time.

Other things worth noting:

1. You can't seal/air cool this light. It only vents out heat.

2. The reflector used is just a square box. No angles. Not the best reflector. Anything not directly below the light will suffer comparitively to a hood with some diagnol angles.

3. This unit is combined as stated earlier. Furthermore it's sealed with a glass lens but does not have any active air cooling abilities. This heat will drift upwards and into the ballast. This is sure to reduce the life of this light.

4. You cannot upgrade this. Meaning you can't add a cool tube or change reflectors or anything of the sort.

If you're really set on buying another light after this grow is complete then why not buy two of those $119 400 watt HPS systems.

Another option to consider is this; If you truely can not come up with $20 and are borrowing $100 to get a light then perhaps you shouldn't be buying anything at all. $20 is not that hard to come up with even for people who don't have the money.

Sell plasma. Pays like $40 I think.. umm what else pays money. Sell copper, pays pretty decent. Go do telemarketing for 1 day.

Telemarketing places typically pay about $7-$9/hr during your training phase. Which typically lasts anywhere from 1 day to 1 week. All you need to do is work 1 day.

Ask 20 different people for $1. It's kind of crappy but because it's such a low amount most people will probably forget about it and you won't even have to pay it back.

If you're dead set on it then you're dead set on it and I won't continue to try to change your mind, but I thought someone should at least tell you the benefits of the alternative.

[Mr. Clandestine]

I wouldn't urge anyone to jump on it for the simple fact that you can pay $20 more and get a remote ballast. Far more ideal for a grow room unless you live in a very cold area.

I have a 400w core/coil ballast, about 6 years old, and it doesn't raise the ambient temperature of my room whatsoever. I keep a small 10" fan trained on the vent holes every time the light is on, and it never gets hot.

I stand by my statement. This is a good deal. Were it a 1k system, I'd be worried about heat. But even then, I also own a 1k digital system, and it stays very cool. As it is, a good active exhaust in the room would easily take care of any heat problems.

Jack: Don't worry about the extra $20, bro. That light is a good deal for the money. Just remember to spend about as much on ventilation as you do on the light, and you'll be just fine! :jointsmile:

[jackforest]

You're right.

http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=47929

This one?

[daihashi]

I have a 400w core/coil ballast, about 6 years old, and it doesn't raise the ambient temperature of my room whatsoever. I keep a small 10" fan trained on the vent holes every time the light is on, and it never gets hot.

I stand by my statement. This is a good deal. Were it a 1k system, I'd be worried about head. As it is, a good active exhaust in the room would easily take care of any heat problems.

Jack: Don't worry about the extra $20, bro. That light is a good deal for the money. Just remember to spend about as much on ventilation as you do on the light, and you'll be just fine! :jointsmile:

He can't afford $20, he's growing in a rubbermaid box (I've seen nice setups but it says alot for his budget), and he's growing in a closet which will have little fresh air.

With that said, I suspect heat will be an issue. And considering that he can't afford $20 I doubt he has any money to spend on ventilation.

I agree that this light is a bargain and will work, but not if all you have is $100 and nothing more.

I'm betting you have more than just a 10" fan blowing on it. Probably also have an exhaust pulling hot air out of the room and probably have some form of cool fresh air being pulled back into the room. Either via a passive intake or an active one.

I'm just concerned about heat in the closet for a guy who only has $100 to spend.

Good luck :jointsmile: