Additives and supplements for flowering in soil

[stinkyattic]

Never use SuperThrive in flower. It's got too much N in it and will hurt your yield.

[sirsmokealot23]

If you are using tap water you should be fine on mg and cal. If ro water you will definately need the cal-mag. If you use it with tap water I'd suggest once every 2 weeks. It certainly woun'thurt anything.

Thanks for the help grey. This will save me some time and money. I wasn't planning on buying it but one of my hydro friends said since I'm using part coco in my soil mix I should get some. Not sure if this is true but I didn't want to take any chances. Thanks again

[sirsmokealot23]

For supplements, lately I'm using these:
CalMag- My well water gets weird in spring during snowmelt, and starts to resemble a very dilute and disturbingly pure organic acid solution... HELL on the buffering capacity of the soil, and only a couple mg/L CaCO3.
Stacker/SnowStorm/PurpleMaxx- They keep changing the name of the product but it's real nice stuff. I give it as a foliar so as not to interfere with soil chemistry. I have had mixed results with Humboldts Own products. This time around, my results are stellar. The plants look rolled in pixie dust!
Sweet- I use this at about 5-10mL/gallon along with some extra sugar from unsulfured molasses.
TopMax- Better product than Sweet, but more expensive by far, and overkill in my garden since I use the Sweet, molasses, and will on occasion apply Gravity. But I love TopMax and if you pick only one bloom booster, this is my top recommendation for especially newer growers, since it is pretty foolproof and works well.
Canna Boost- Everyone gets this- rooted clones, veggers, moms, flowering ladies. It just makes them seem more vigorous. I'm not sure that I'll go buy some; the shop guy gave me a free sample, but some outdoor people I know just ADORE the stuff and I am passing their recommendation along to you-all.
Note that I do not run high P bloom blasters as a general rule. I've got some Grotek stuff but have only used it a couple times. I feel that my standalone bloom fert is already giving adequate results, and I don't want to overdo the macros.

You're the main person I heard that used tomax and from your many post and I decided to take your word for it. It is a little expensive but I'm experimenting so it doesn't matter. Although, I was wondering how much you use? I'm in my second week now and the bottle says use 2-5 ml per l and the scheduler says 1 ml per l. I was hoping you would tell me how much you use and in teaspoons or tablespoons per gallon because it is easier with my measurements. At first I was going to go for the Purple Maxx because 2 people suggested it but I read the back of the label at the grow shop and it told me to cut my nuts by a 1/3 and a bunch of other modification and I decided just to play it safe and go for the topmax. But maybe another time I'll use it. I'll keep everyone posted with my experiments but even after this first week in my fox farm vs. sugar peek(1/2 from hydro schedule) the sugar peak has boosted my plants by at least 3 more in. in average over the fox farm but the fox farm seems to be working more on the busher side. We'll see how it turns out. I have posted my feeding schedule:

Part one back left:
fox farm nutrients:
Tiger Bloom: 2 tsp per g
Big Bloom: 1Tbl per g
EVERY OTHER WATERING
Supernatural Bud Blaster:
1 tsp per 5 g.
Liquid Karma:
2 tsp. per g
EVERY OTHER WATERING
Part two front left:
fox farm nutrients:
Tiger Bloom: 2 tsp per g
Big Bloom: 1Tbl per g
EVERY OTHER WATERING
Liquid Karma:
2 tsp. per g
EVERY OTHER WATERING
Topmax:
Recommend dose
Part three back right:
sugar peak nutrients:
flowering: week 1 & 2- 3 tsp per g
week 3-5- 2 tsp per g
grand finale: week 6&7- 2 tsp per g
Bud Blaster:
1 tsp per 5 g.
Liquid Karma:
2 tsp. per g
EVERY OTHER WATERING
Part four front right:
sugar peak nutrients:
flowering: week 1 & 2- 3 tsp per g
week 3-5- 2 tsp per g
grand finale: week 6&7- 2 tsp per g
Liquid Karma:
2 tsp. per g
EVERY OTHER WATERING
Topmax:
Recommended Dose

And:
Add Calmeg+ every 2 weeks to all

[psycho slug]

i havn't been growing that long myself, im only on my 4th grow. but i was introduced to ionic grow for veg and ionic bloom for flower and i have had great results using it, only i use about a 3rd less of the stated dosage. :rastasmoke:

[bluntmaster430]

currently use Fox farm grow big and big bloom during vegetative stage and tiger bloom and big bloom during flowering. I really dont use any other fert. but I do fert. quite liberally when the plant has shown tolerance. I was also wondering about Hygrozyme. I received a bottled for free and I have been hesitant to use it. Has anyone used this? thoughts? dosage?

thanks!
VA

[stinkyattic]

I don't measure my topmax precisely. I usually end up using about 10mL per gallon plus some molasses, whenever I remember to. It's a nice supplement that isn't likely to scorch your plants like a super P booster!
You can use PurpleMaxx as a foliar feed if you like, just FYI.

[sirsmokealot23]

I don't measure my topmax precisely. I usually end up using about 10mL per gallon plus some molasses, whenever I remember to. It's a nice supplement that isn't likely to scorch your plants like a super P booster!
You can use PurpleMaxx as a foliar feed if you like, just FYI.

On this grow I decided to buy some purple maxx and had a few personal preference questions. I still have a lot of topmax still and if I use the purple maxx only as a foilar feed can I still use the topmax? Also I am using pure blend pro so I'm not sure if that is good or bad with these products. I was personally wondering what strength you use with these products on your plants. Like do you cut down 1/3 on your base nutrients due to the purple maxx or it is only when you mix with water. Well I am curious what you would suggest because I took your advise with the topmax and it was a great one. So thank you for the recommendation especially becuase that was my first grow. The products I have are liquid karma, hygrozyme, sweet, topmax and purple maxx. o of course the pure blend pro. Thanks for all the help.

[stinkyattic]

A good rule to follow is if you are adding another nute, cut back even more on what you are already running. Even if it is foliar. I run my base nutes a little on the weak side and also use my supplements weaker than recommended, so I don't really cut back too much, but I DO have the ability to decrease my light intensity and heat in emergencies in case I screw things up. lol... that's probably not too helpful, but I guess it's just to say, GO EASY and test your plants' limits gradually. You can use both topmax and purple maxx at the same time, but in that case I'd DEFINITELY foliar the purple shit. Lightly

[ghrmuh001]

I am not from southern africa and this is my first grow. We dont get all these flower supple u guys are talking about on this side of the world.

I am a first time grower, so is there any specific level the nutirent shold be. if i can get a break down, then maybe i can find a replacement local product here at home...

[sirsmokealot23]

I'm not exactly sure but I know that during flowering you want to cut away the N(or low doses) and put higher levels of P and K. You might be able to order off the internet.