McCain Calls Plans to Withdraw From Iraq â??Recklessâ??

[Markass]

KANSAS CITYâ??Senator John McCain painted a highly positive picture of American progress in Iraq today as he implicitly criticized his Democratic competitors, Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, for what he called a policy of â??withdraw and re-invadeâ?� and for basing their positions on the war on political ambition.

â??Those who disregard the unmistakable progress we have made in the last year and the terrible consequences that would ensue were we to abandon our responsibilities in Iraq have chosen another road,â??â?? Mr. McCain said in a speech to a gathering of the Veterans of Foreign Wars. â??It may appear to be the easier course of action, but it is a much more reckless one, and it does them no credit even if it gives them an advantage in the next election.â??â??

In remarks delivered a day before General David Petraeus, the commander of American forces in Iraq, is to testify before two committees and the three presidential candidates on Capitol Hill, Mr. McCain declared that the United States is â??no longer staring into the abyss of defeat.â??â??

Instead, he said, America â??can now look ahead to the genuine prospect of success.â??â??
Mr. McCain said the U.S. could achieve the goal of an Iraq that no longer needs American troops â??perhaps sooner than many imagine,â??â?? but called for no withdrawals, as Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama have. â??To promise a withdrawal of our forces from Iraq, regardless of the calamitous consequences to the Iraqi people, our most vital interests, and the future of the Middle East, is the height of irresponsibility,â??â?? Mr. McCain said. â??It is a failure of leadership.â??â??
McCain Calls Plans to Withdraw From Iraq Reckless - The Caucus - Politics - New York Times Blog

I couldn't agree more.......:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

That's also coming from the ignorant bastard who said we should be there for the next 50-100 years 'if we have to' When do we win this war?? When the people who have been fighting each other for thousands of years over religion stop?? When our country falls apart because we keep printing money out of thin air...

This war is nothing but a motherfucking joke...I wish they'd hurry up and initiate a draft so I'd have an excuse to leave this place.

Markass Reviewed by Markass on 04-10-2008. McCain Calls Plans to Withdraw From Iraq â??Recklessâ?? KANSAS CITYâ??Senator John McCain painted a highly positive picture of American progress in Iraq today as he implicitly criticized his Democratic competitors, Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, for what he called a policy of â??withdraw and re-invadeâ?� and for basing their positions on the war on political ambition. â??Those who disregard the unmistakable progress we have made in the last year and the terrible consequences that would ensue were we to abandon our Rating: 5

[ldg420]

I wish they'd hurry up and initiate a draft so I'd have an excuse to leave this place.

The exit doors are always wide open my friend. feel free to walk out anytime.. America doesn't need to people waiting for excuses to leave!!:stoned:

[Psycho4Bud]

That's also coming from the ignorant bastard who said we should be there for the next 50-100 years 'if we have to' When do we win this war?? When the people who have been fighting each other for thousands of years over religion stop??

"MCCAIN: Maybe 100. We have been in Japan for 60 years. We have been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That would be fine with me as long as Americans...

QUESTION: So that is your...

MCCAIN: As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. Then it's fine with me."
USS Neverdock: Reporting on Terrorism, Terrorists, Islam, and biased media

If your gonna quote the man at least get it right.....seems that the left wing candidates have the same problem.

Have a good one!:s4:

[Rusty Trichome]

That's also coming from the ignorant bastard who said we should be there for the next 50-100 years 'if we have to'

Ignorant? That sure is the pot calling the kettle black. Your lack of knowledge regarding McCains entire quote is showing, or you just like to spread lies. One of the two.

[Markass]

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This is the ignorant bastard I was talking about.

So it's okay to stay there until 'we win' while young american men and women continue to be injured and die? What if that takes fifty years?? He damn sure wants us to stay there, and so do you.

lol, if he's fine with us staying there as long as noone dies, why the fuck are we still there?? Oh yeah, because we have to 'win.' Sorry, I forgot.

So are we going to keep fighting until they all come to peace with one religion that doesn't hate another or something?? When do we 'win?' When the Iraqi government is 'stable?' When are they 'stable?' Maybe when four thousand more soldiers lose their lives and thousands more injured and we realize they're going to continue fighting because our occupation in their land itself pisses them the fuck off??

I damn sure would be shooting at anyone if they occupied my country and had shot my cousin, uncle, or mom or dad thinking they were a terrorist by mistake. They are too.

[Psycho4Bud]

So it's okay to stay there until 'we win' while young american men and women continue to be injured and die? What if that takes fifty years?? He damn sure wants us to stay there, and so do you.[/QUOTE]

Well, if your under the impression that ground conditions are the same now as a year or two ago I suppose but that isn't the case. Seems that the left is just hoping for this type of scenario.

So if not McCain which of the other two do ya think will pull us out safely.......be prepared!

Have a good one!:s4:

[Markass]

So it's okay to stay there until 'we win' while young american men and women continue to be injured and die? What if that takes fifty years?? He damn sure wants us to stay there, and so do you.

Well, if your under the impression that ground conditions are the same now as a year or two ago I suppose but that isn't the case. Seems that the left is just hoping for this type of scenario.

So if not McCain which of the other two do ya think will pull us out safely.......be prepared!

Have a good one!:s4:[/QUOTE]

Neither nor, I think Ron Paul would institute a foreign policy in which we can afford as well as realistically manage. I don't care how much 'things have changed...' The constitution is the constitution, and we shouldn't make up excuses not to listen to it. ..The constitution means just as much to me as an American as it does for me to have the opportunity to be able to wake up and live my life every day, and never in my life, as long as I'm an American will I respect ANYBODY who doesn't respect it. Iraq is not worth even ONE American soldier to lose their life over. We do not need to have troops in any country aside from our own. That's why they're AMERICAN soldiers. They're supposed to defend our country, not another country, and being 6,000 miles away in Iraq is not defending our country. Increasing our airport security and having them at home, able to defend our country if the need arises is defending our country...

[YOUTUBE]http://youtube.com/watch?v=WQMCcyKkJZI[/YOUTUBE]

Ron Paul's name will be written in on my ballot in november, I guarantee it. And no, the CFR isn't the only reason I'm voting for him, it is how he speaks truth about what things have come to in this country.

I don't know why some people think we need to police the world, we have enough fucking problems of our own to deal with before dealing with others...Although we shouldn't do either, we should be preventing genocide in Darfur before we're fucking in the middle of a desert trying to stop a religious war...

And for the gentleman who said I'm free to leave the country if that's how I feel, I need a bit more of a reason to...aside from I'm forced to be in pain because it's illegal for me to consume the plant in which most effectively alleviates my pain without undesirable side effects..And now I go to jail for a year if I fail a drug test. My government doesn't care about me one bit, they just want to take my money and waste it for Iraq's citizens. Fuck that shit.

And by the way, could you describe 'pulling us out safely' And don't tell me that means not leaving until we've 'won' or they've surrendered...Who's they?? The same people who have been fighting against each other for thousands of years??

[Psycho4Bud]

And by the way, could you describe 'pulling us out safely' And don't tell me that means not leaving until we've 'won' or they've surrendered...Who's they?? The same people who have been fighting against each other for thousands of years??

You tell me the logic in that plan. That's what the dems have in mind my friend. Pull out the majority of the troops but leave enough to protect 100,000 civilian workers, our diplomats, our embassy, and loyal Iraqi nationals. So how many troops does that take and which of these unlucky s.o.b.s are going to be left behind to do just that?

There are only 2 logical solutions;
1) McCains method...finish the job.
2) Ron Pauls.....complete withdrawl.

Since Ron has a snowballs chance in hell of ever being elected I'm backing the only other logical choice.

Have a good one!:s4:

[fishman3811]

Yeah but what i dont understand is yes u have troops in germany and japan and korea but having troops there and having troops in Iraq are 2 different things because Iraq is muslim and any western forces would be considered an occupier am i right or wrong????

[Psycho4Bud]

We already have bases across the middle east.
The Worldwide Network of US Military Bases

Like stated, there will not be any permanent bases in Iraq unless approved by the Iraqi government.

Have a good one!:s4: