The Truth About Hip Hop, MUST READ

[Raisin]

That shit is hilarious...

[Raisin]

Holy shit! He is bashing gays too!

Edit: Pardon my double-post

[stinkyattic]

Ugh. SPAM and fundamentalism don't go well together. Everyone knows you're supposed to serve EGGS with your potted luncheon meat.

[thecreator]

Why do ppl who have a good foundation of rap music always call it hip hop.Oh yea wheres the beef oh my bad wheres the Wu and yes old Wu is hip hop and Snoop dogg is as well for doggy style is nothing but.....peace and love children and where is the Mr.Cheeks Dj.Qbert hell 9th wonder....yea the silence says it all and yes I know I didn't punctuate worth a damn so sue me lol I love this site.

[dragonrider]

... and yes I know I didn't punctuate worth a damn so sue me ...

You'll be hearing from my lawyer.

[CultureCherryPopper]

"If something is boring after two minutes, try it for four. If still boring, then eight. Then sixteen. Then thirty-two. Eventually one discovers that it is not boring at all."

and

"The first question I ask myself when something doesn't seem to be beautiful is why do I think it's not beautiful. And very shortly you discover that there is no reason."

Both from John Cage

When you listen to rap and hip-hop with an untrained, unappreciating ear, your judgments are already blinded by prejudice. I'd like to see some of you put complex thoughts into mere lines of poetry with the wit and clarity they do. Listen to the background track; pick out the different intricate parts that might linger in the background. Good hip hop tells a story, one that, if you didn't already listen to hip hop, you probably couldn't relate to necessarily, but you can dig what the artist is conveying.

Also, check out the Roots' album Things Fall Apart. That album was the first serious hip hop I had ever listened to, and I was hooked. And yes, they play their own instruments. And yes, the turntable effects are all vocalized. Now tell me that doesn't take any talent.

Now, I'd love to tackle Breukelen advocaat's notions of art, but I'm slightly foggy at this moment as I've hit a bud dry spell. IF you check this thread again, bro, ponder this: John Cage said, "When we separate music from life we get art." I on the other hand, can't see the two separated, as they are intertwined. Music is a means of communication of ideas, always has been. How do we take life out of music when it's been inseparable since music's creation? Just something to consider.

[stinkyattic]

lol CCP you gotta enable your rep if you're gonna be posting good shit like that!

[CultureCherryPopper]

That's all the accolades I need, Stinky, thanks. I turned off my rep because I would get into debates with people in the past, and they'd just bomb my rating, so I said screw it. And speaking of Dangermouse, if you really wanna laugh, find Black and Blue, it's Jay-Z mashed with Weezer (their Blue album, of course).

I love music, debating it, creating it, enjoying it. Hell, today I sat a baby grand and played the same D mi 7/9 and C maj 7/9 chords over and over for about 5 minutes, just riffing it because I love the way they sound. And no, I wasn't high. Might be time to scrape the pipes, siiiiigh.

MarquisBlack, always good to see a fellow Ohioan. Where you located?

[Breukelen advocaat]

"If something is boring after two minutes, try it for four. If still boring, then eight. Then sixteen. Then thirty-two. Eventually one discovers that it is not boring at all."
and
"The first question I ask myself when something doesn't seem to be beautiful is why do I think it's not beautiful. And very shortly you discover that there is no reason."
Both from John Cage
When you listen to rap and hip-hop with an untrained, unappreciating ear, your judgments are already blinded by prejudice. I'd like to see some of you put complex thoughts into mere lines of poetry with the wit and clarity they do. Listen to the background track; pick out the different intricate parts that might linger in the background. Good hip hop tells a story, one that, if you didn't already listen to hip hop, you probably couldn't relate to necessarily, but you can dig what the artist is conveying.
Also, check out the Roots' album Things Fall Apart. That album was the first serious hip hop I had ever listened to, and I was hooked. And yes, they play their own instruments. And yes, the turntable effects are all vocalized. Now tell me that doesn't take any talent.
Now, I'd love to tackle Breukelen advocaat's notions of art, but I'm slightly foggy at this moment as I've hit a bud dry spell. IF you check this thread again, bro, ponder this: John Cage said, "When we separate music from life we get art." I on the other hand, can't see the two separated, as they are intertwined. Music is a means of communication of ideas, always has been. How do we take life out of music when it's been inseparable since music's creation? Just something to consider.

Quotes from a John Cage will not make the types of sounds found in Rap and Hip Hop resonate any better to my "untrained" and "unappreciative" ears. They are much more attentive to music that is made by actual musicians, or at least people who are not emotionally retarded, egocentric, insecure philistines.


I happen to see some things as non-beautiful. Thats just the way I think when I hear Rap and Hip-Hop so-called music, especially when it's blaring out of some idiots' car stereos.

Somebody else may say the same thing about music that I enjoy. They have a right their opinion, just as I have to mine.

[Subjekt]

lmao how fuckin stupid....thats all music in general..if you would have done research you would kno who the devil really "WAS" (Angel of Music) most music besides hip hop says explicit shit in there lyrics...fuck it..i wont tell you what to listen to but hip hop is no more offensive than Metal, hard core rock, etc...you people who claim hip hops offensive are full of shit to...i listen to all music and the only difference is the voice....all music the same..as far as hip hop being considered devils music...hmmm w/e ...i dont understand but Metallic & limp bizkit could perform at woodstock causing riots with there music and you call hip hop WHAT.???

sorry i went off , it makes me mad to see people downing one group of music and leave others alone....and i kno one smart ass will consider limp bizkit hip hop ..no he's not..