Quote Originally Posted by McLeodGanja
Isn't it just that they want the west to stop turning their homelands into a bloodbath from trying to impose western "democracy" on them through military force?

WIKIPEDIA="According to scholar John Esposito, Jihad requires Muslims to "struggle in the way of God" or "to struggle to improve one's self and/or society."[3][4] Jihad is directed against the devil's inducements, aspects of one's own self, or against a visible enemy.["

Obviously we are the enemy of Islam, according to the Jihadists, but what is it that makes us "visible" enemies?

I doubt very much that the film will reflect this observation which tends to go largely unmentioned when the Islamophobes start attacking Islam.

It's kind of like saying that all dogs are evil because they bite you, when in fact they usually only bite you if you kick them first.

We weren't bombing or attacking anything in the Middle East when Bin Laden and his monkeys attacked us on 9/11, or when the World Trade Center was bombed in 1993 by Islamic extremists. We were not trying to force democracy on them.

However, even the moderatly-toned Moslem newspapers used to be in favor of taking over the United States and establishing an Islamic theocracy - and I assume that they were representative of their readership. It had nothing to do with our involvement with the Middle East oil. I used to read their mainstream newspapers in the 1980's, courtesy of a Pakistani guy I worked with. Of course, since 9/11, they don't say things like that much anymore, but that's what many of them still want to do - and they aren't even close to being part of the lunatic fringe. A small but dangerous number of Islamic psychos want to destroy all human life on the planet Earth so that Allah can start over, and put Moslems in charge of everything. There's enough of these types out there to warrant major international investigations and manhunts.

There are just some people that it's not possible to negotiate with. Bin Laden, Al Quada, and others of their ilk just have to be stomped out. It would be much more effective if the Middle East did it themselves.

As for security, in the present, America probably has less to worry about than Europe. Our Moslem citizens are integrating into the society, and seem to realize that it's better to play ball by our rules than fight everything. They realize that they can live free and go much further, in terms of success, than most anywhere else - mostly due to the fact that class barriers are much less restrictive here. We have to watch out for attacks from outsiders.

New York City has many ethnic groups, well over 100, and they get along very well for the most part.

I've got no problem with most of the Moslems in America, as long as they understand that religion has no place in our government, and Islam is no exception.