Geert Wilders' Islamophobic documentary suffers a new set back

[McLeodGanja]

Churchill wrote the words below in the 19th century, and they're still true today.

[align=center]Winston Churchill On Islam [/align]

A quote from an 1899 book by Winston Churchill, "The River War", in which he describes Muslims he apparently observed during Kitchener's campaign in the Sudan

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.


Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.

Good quote, but just because you can express your hatred towards a race of people using poetry doesn't give it any more credit. I'm still not convinced that muslims are all rabid dogs who rape their wives and don't know how to farm properly.

McLeodGanja Reviewed by McLeodGanja on 03-29-2008. Geert Wilders' Islamophobic documentary suffers a new set back For apparently breaching guidelines on hate language. BBC NEWS | Europe | Dutch Islam film website 'shut' A website that a Dutch right-wing politician was planning to use to release a film expected to be fiercely critical of Islam has been suspended. The US hosting service, Network Solutions, said it was investigating complaints that it may have breached guidelines on hate language. Dutch politician Geert Wilders says the 15-minute film describes Islam as "the enemy of freedom". Rating: 5

[Breukelen advocaat]

[align=center]Geert wilders film: The important points it missed[/align]

by Larry Houle
29 Mar, 2008



Geert wilders film, while good, failed to explain to the 'hear no evil, see no evil, do nothing about evil' naive infidels that all Muslims believe 'the Koran is the eternal divine word of God and and a copy of it is in heaven. Muslims must be obeyed without question. Most people think that the Koran is like the old testament. That Muslims can ignore the parts they don't like. But in truth, the Koran is the eternal laws of God. Its laws and commands are valid for all times and places forever. To question it is to question the very word of God, and hence blasphemous. A Muslim's duty is to believe and obey those divine commands without question. The Muslims will tell the infidels what they all desperately want to hear -- that the Koran is all peace and love and Osma bin laden is an aberration, not following the true Islam. But bin Laden is a true Muslim.



Wilders also did not include the 3 most important teachings of Islam:

9:5 â?? extermination of all non believers i.e. Infidels,

9:29 extermination of all Christians and Jews and

9:111 â?? those Muslims who kill and are killed performing 9:5 and 9:29 will ascend to paradise filled with full breasted, lustrous eyed virgins to sexually molest for all eternity.

Therefore, the 9/11 is Koran's 9:111.


Wilders failed to point to the criminality of prophet Muhammad.

That Muhammad was the first Nazi SS man. He ordered 60 atrocious raids and expeditions, and personally commanded 27 atrocities. At the massacre of the Jews of Banu Quraiza, Muhammad personally assisted in the beheading of 600 to 900 Jewish men. In order to distinguish between young Jewish boys and young Jewish men Muhammad ordered his murderous Muslim jihadists to pull down their pants. Just the slightest traces of pubic hair and the young Jewish boy/man were beheaded. Their mothers and sisters were then enslaved, the young and pretty girls were reduced to sex-slaves or sold some of them into slavery.

Wilders needed to explain that in Islam, deceit, torture, murder, assassination, massacre, genocide, pillage, robbery, enslavement and rape are halal (legal) acts, deserving of paradise, as long as they were perpetrated on infidels. These unethical and criminal teachings became the eternal laws of Allah.

That Muslims can kill (behead) anyone for doing any of the following:

1) reviling Allah or his messenger;

2) being sarcastic about 'Allah's name, his command, his interdiction, his promise, or his threat';

3) denying any verse of the quran or 'anything which by scholarly consensus belongs to it, or to add a verse that does not belong to it';

4) holding that 'any of Allah's messengers or prophets are liars, or to deny their being sent';

5) reviling the religion of Islam;

6) being sarcastic about any ruling of the sacred law;

7) denying that Allah intended 'the prophet's message . . . To be the religion followed by the entire world.'

If a Muslim challenges or questions the Koran, he is no longer a Muslim but an apostate of Islam and can be killed.
The cold, hard reality is that the Koran can never be changed, not even one word. When you are reading teachings of the Koran, you are reading the word of God himself and you must obey. There is no choice. There is no scope of ever exercising free will, employing logic, reason, rationality, morality.

This is the most important insanity that all Muslims believe. This is a disastrous belief that has the potential to destroy humanity and civilization as we know it.

Murdering infidels as an eternal law of God

9:5 when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters (unbelievers) wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.

This is the notorious verse of the sword. 9:50 nullify all peace teachings, if any, from the Koran. God is commanding Muslims, as a holy duty, they must exterminate all infidels (particularly idolaters) from face of the earth.

9:29 fight those who believe not in God nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and his apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, (even if they are) of the people of the book [Christians and Jews], until they pay the jizya [poll tax] with willing submission, feel themselves subdued.â?�

This verse means exactly what it means. Convert to Islam, or pay a devastating submission tax or be murdered.



For those Muslims who slay and are slain in fulfilling above commands of the Koran, they are guaranteed accession to a sexual paradise filled with full breasted, lustrous eyed eyes virgins who re â?? generate as virgins after each sex act to sexually molest for all eternity (9:111):

9:111 â??lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the garden (paradise) will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slainâ?�

"as for the righteous (Muslims)...we (Allah) shall wed them to beautiful virgins with lustrous eyes" - Q 44:51-54

The reason 3000 people were massacred on 9/11 was because God commanded the massacre. Those who butchered these people will ascend to paradise. By believing Koran is the book Allah's eternal laws, all Muslims believe this insanity.

Wilders added some more materials in his movie to explained these horrendous evils of Islam.

He should have made it clear that there are no moderate Muslims because in order to be a moderate Muslim you would have to renounce teachings of Q 9:5, 9;29 and 9:111. But if a Muslim renounces just one word of the Koran he is no longer a Muslim but an apostate of Islam and will be murdered.

Unfortunately, the film will not have the lasting impact it should have had, despite creating so much hypes.

Islam Watch - "Geert wilders (anti-Quran, Islam) film: The important points it missed" by Larry Houle

[zeitgeist]

I find it ironic that why the reasons Islam is against freedom and Churchill's essay are pretty much what Christians did.

And those extra points of Islam: That is not real Islam. These are ideoligies that have been twisted by those in power to use for their own advacements.
What Islam needs is a Renaissance so Muslims learn to think for themselves

[McLeodGanja]

"'hear no evil, see no evil, do nothing about evil' naive infidels"

I prefer to look at it like this. Don't look for evil, not gonna find any probably, but if you do... find evil.... try to find a way to get the fuck rid of it.

What "Hate" Wilders, as I being an Engelsmaan pronouces "it", is trying to say is this.

There is a serious threat posed to the world by fanatical Jihadists + Oh look at how many Muslims have settled in Europe in recent times = RACIST PROPAGANDA BULLSHIT.

I wonder, by warning the world about this impending disaster, does Geert Wilders expect the threat to go away when everyone wakes up and realises that Islam is the cause of the problem, or would he rather see us all fighting to the last bone until we are all dead so he can say- I told you so?

[McLeodGanja]

Breukelen_advocaat where do you get these articles from? I just read half way through it and it's such a crock of wank, sorry no offence, but it is.

Maybe Mohammed was a complete bastard crusador psycopath pedophile goat fucking satan's anus, but what you have to remember is that the holy word of others isn't worth shit compared to what you yourself thinks, and most religious followers in the world haven't realised that yet sadly.

I don't know if you read the article i posted about the film by one of the unofficial hosts, what it said was that Geert Wilders is using the same propagandist tactic as the Imams, cutting and pasting from the Quran and quoting it out of context, like the article you just posted did. The venom with which the writer expressed his views gave it away.

There is a lot more than bloodshed to the Quran, and even more to the Islamic culture.

[McLeodGanja]

PoliGazette » Fitna Could Have Been Made By Al Qaeda

"Robert Spencer notes that formerly UK based Jihadist Omar Bakri said that â??Fitnaâ?� could have been produced by Muslim extremists. Robert comments: â??Preeeeeee-ciselyâ?¦ Yet in all the furor over the film, from the EU, the UN, the OIC, and everyone else, no one seems to have picked up on that point.â?� Although I agree that not many seem to have realized this, Iâ??ve got to say that â??no oneâ?� is a bit extreme. I know at least one person who said the exact same thing."

[Reefer Rogue]

I wanna see the movie but that one link didn't work, bloody censors =/

[McLeodGanja]

It was pulled less than a day after it was released due to the staff at one of the host sites receiving death threats. They pulled it and then started citing a mis-informed BBC news article as the reason for getting death threats - it was nothing to do with the content of the film.:wtf: That was Live Leak anyway, Poligazette had their entire site pulled down for a few hours for I assume hosting it without the permission of Geert Wilders. I wouldn't get too bothered about not seeing it, you really didn't miss much.

EDIT

CATCH IT WHILE YOU STILL CAN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCrCsTMokTU

[Reefer Rogue]

i saw it here CoreISP.nl Corporation Media Database :: For educational purposes only! :: Fitna the Movie

I enjoyed the viewing, i accept his views somewhat though i know that not every muslim wants to kill non believers. I know a lot of good people who are muslim. However, islamic extremism is no joke and is a serious threat to western values. Wildeers is a brave man, not scared to express his opinion. I congratulate him and i'm glad i saw his film. I feel it highlights the ludicrousy of a ridiculous ideology. Religion KILLS!

[Mr. Clandestine]

Here we go, let the death threats, boycotts, and protests begin...

"The Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party said in the note that the movie created unnecessary tensions and would "invite vengeance" from the Muslim community if it is not withdrawn."

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"It is a great insult to all Muslims," Soleh Mahmud said. "The Dutch government must arrest him. Wilders must be killed because he has declared war on Muslims."

Malaysian party urges Dutch boycott


Isn't there a more 'peaceful' way to handle this matter that doesn't involve finding Wilders and lopping his head off at the neck? :wtf: