Obama to deliver speech on race, outspoken preacher

[Psycho4Bud]

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LMAO! Seems that some Obamites forgot to reply on this one.

Have a good one!:s4:

[Rusty Trichome]

I don't know...I could see Imus, there at the pulpit...


Has been entertaining watching the dems scramble the past few days. Seems the memo said to minimize, distract, and my favorite: "move on".
Heard a few senators, democratic strategists and clergy use that very term this weekend.

"Move on". How the hell are we supposed to move on? The 'best' black candidate in years, and ends-up he's belonged to a black seperatist church for two decades, is forced to uninvite his antipastor to his coming-out invocation, lies about never hearing the good rev spout his nastiness from the pulpit, came out minimizing his role in the Rezco partnership, and then...since he had already blamed friends, enemies and society for his current situation...throws his own grandma under the bus, labeling her a biggot. (can't forget the shout-out to family)
Nice speech, but who vetted him for his current gig as senator?.

You'd think someone would have told him: "if you are going to put your black ass out there on the campaign trail, better make sure it's squeeky fricking clean"

Kinda hard to "move on", when your feet are firmly implanted in festering the rhetoric of past injustices.

Real hard to believe he actually earned his degree. I thought learned folks were smart. I guess it's not that he's a bit careless, and lacking in judgement that pisses me off, it's that he thinks that we are, too..

[Psycho4Bud]

Well, I take it we either have NO Obama supporters in here or they have cut and run on their candidate. The GOP was hoping Clinton was the candidate...now it's Obama.

Have a good one!:s4:

[dragonrider]

Well, I take it we either have NO Obama supporters in here or they have cut and run on their candidate. The GOP was hoping Clinton was the candidate...now it's Obama.

Have a good one!:s4:

I didn't get a chance to see the speech or read any commentary about it, but when I do I'll post back.

[Orzy]

Huckabee is defending Rev. Wright.

Huckabee Defends Rev. Jeremiah Wright - Politics on The Huffington Post

Kinda weird he's doing that, but I definitely agree with his Jerry Falwell statement.

[dragonrider]

Here is the full speech in four parts. It takes awhile to get through the whole thing, but if you are going to comment, be sure to watch it all, not just the sound bite snippets that are out there --- you get a distorted view of the message with the selective editing

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1uJztFbOk8[/YOUTUBE]
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxZACaelHr4&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-EPJeTaaio&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGyELYLfuRI&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

I thought it was pretty good. I thought it was going to be more about Wright, but it was more about race in America. You don't get anyone talking about the more subtle aspects of race in America. Usually all you get are stereotypes and resentment from both sides and racial pandering from the politicians.

I thought it was interesting that he said you have to acknowledge the anger and resentment of BOTH black and white Americans regarding racism. How often do you get someone acknowleding the anger of BOTH sides? For you "angry white men" who have already posted, did you notice that he recognized the resentment some white people feel over what they see as their own lost opportunites resulting from things like affirmative action? Anger over losing a job or losing a spot in college to someone who gets preference based on race? Not really something you would expect from the guy you have stereotyped as supporting the kind of things Wright says, is it?

I think he was right on with this. If you don't at least try to understand where the anger from someone like Wright comes from or the resentment of white people, you'll never be able to deal with it. Personally, I can't stand the victim mentality of blacks who blame racism for all their problems or the whites who blame affirmative action or immigrants for all of their problems. Put some effort in to making the most of your opportunites and you will be fine.

And I agree with him on the fact that if maybe we ALL had decent schools and maybe we ALL had a shot at some good jobs, then we wouldn't be left fighting over the scraps and resenting what another person got at our expense. Life does not have to be a zero-sum game where every gained opportunity comes at the expense of someone else.