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    #81
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    Rusty's Re-Veg...

    Once the shoots get long enough to twisty-tie, you can start. For an LST, I'd recommend training the side branches, and cull (remove) most the branches that are coming from the center of the plant, and/or those that are aimed twords the center of the plant. (depending on how many shoots you want to keep for the LST) They'll just get in the way later, or can develop into mainstem(s), making it more difficult to keep an even canopy.

    Yes, it's true that the tallest branch (closest to the light?) get's all the glory. Something to do with the formation and use of certain auxins (hormones) in the plant, but I have no clear understanding of how the plant knows which branch to choose as the mainstem replacement(s). Possibly it's from quantity of light recieved and length and health of the stem, or perhaps it's the stored nutrients in the leaves...but I'm guessing here.

    Trimming the roots after harvest is easier than the following process, but here's what I've done to successfully correct this situation...
    Firstly, do you have a 15 gallon pot in case the roots go crazy?
    If not, in emergencies I'll lift out the semi-dry rootball, (wet rootballs fall apart) add an inch or two (see below for how much) of fresh soil to the bottom of the pot, replace the rootball, add whatever soil I can get between the pot and the rootball, and water it all in. Gives a small percentage of extra space, but is a band-aid and not something you'll want to do every grow. But if you're careful it works better than dealing with rootbound issues for the second half of flowering, and might just give 'em a comfortable flowering cycle.
    However much space you have between top of rootball, and the edge of the pot before doing all of this, is a good way gauge the ammount of soil you can add. Make sure to leave an inch or so for future waterings.

    Did I explain that ok?

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    #82
    Senior Member

    Rusty's Re-Veg...

    Quote Originally Posted by laphter
    Rusty, I followed your advice to the letter except for the root trim. I have my "mother" plant in a ten gallon pot and I think she has plenty of root space for reveg. The coolest thing was after harvest I left four lower airy buds on three bottom branches, switched to 18/6 and dosed with 1/2 strength nutes and the airy buds are already starting to stretch out some nice fan leaves after one week. Great advice in this thread!

    I think I owe a good bit to her genetics. These diesel plants seem to take a licking and are very forgiving. She made it through my first grow nicely and yielded over two ounces dry.

    Question about training her during re veg. When would be a good time to start lst? I have read that after you cut down the main cola that side branches can be fooled into taking over the main cola spot if they are higher than the main stem, is this true?

    laphter
    Well after i followed Rusty's log to re veg mine outside, i was able to leave it in 12/12 to catch up the others rewarded me with 3 harvest, before i flipped to 18/6. Not sure how ya trimmed her, but iv found that the outter most growth helps out in the end as it bushes out more then up. If you look at my current grow you can see what my cross has done for me.

    But your so right about this thread, which should be a Sticky! Its the best tecneque iv ever seen. I dont understand why it isnt used more as you have a plant thats in front of you to work with and no seeds to wait on. Plus after a month its clone heaven:thumbsup:. Good luck man, i know it treated me well so far, but in the next month its going to get excitting:hippy:

    Oh and i believe that the branches do take over as this is how i was able to get the other bonus buds to fatten up. You should come see what they look like re vegged outside, man they get big and bushy. But for me after the first time, i know just where to trim now for good branch growth. And your airy buds you left should turn into all branch growth so i hope ya have plenty of room.



    :rasta:

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    #83
    Senior Member

    Rusty's Re-Veg...

    I feel like a proud papa. I'm glad you guys have benefitted from the experience, and have at least given it a chance before slamming the technique. (which is all too common in here) But the technique isn't a Rusty Original. I read about it somewhere, it sounded feasable, and I gave it a go. No magical incantations needed, no need to watch moon phases, no need for special tonics or teas. But somehow it still works. Go figure... :wtf:

    Quote Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa
    I dont understand why it isnt used more
    My guess is that it's a combination of fear of screwing-up, and the generally abrasive nature of the OP. :thumbsup:

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    #84
    Junior Member

    Rusty's Re-Veg...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
    Did I explain that ok?
    Very much so, thank you.

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    #85
    Junior Member

    Rusty's Re-Veg...

    Quote Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa
    Oh and i believe that the branches do take over as this is how i was able to get the other bonus buds to fatten up. You should come see what they look like re vegged outside, man they get big and bushy. But for me after the first time, i know just where to trim now for good branch growth. And your airy buds you left should turn into all branch growth so i hope ya have plenty of room.



    :rasta:
    I have room for the branches, but I have to box off a separate area for flowering the clones. I figure on rooting the clones with the mother on 18/6 and flowering in a grow box to save space. Thanks again for all the info.

    laphter

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