Rusty's Re-Veg...

[Rusty Trichome]

Good luck with 'em. :thumbsup:

[Joefarmer]

Thx. Another question; So I switched to 12/12, sexed em' in a week, then switched back to 18/6 7 days later. They have quite a bit of pistils.
So how long before they get back to vegging and how soon can I put them outside?

[Rusty Trichome]

I always try and give a 2 week healing time after taking clones, schedule changes, bonsai techniques, lighting (cycle) changes...

Once normal growth returns, you should be good to go. :thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey Rusty, how goes the re veg? Ya been running around helping everyone, but would luv to see your plants. Id like to see what they do inside. And the time it takes to turn them. I think mine took a bit over 36 days, but as im new, i have a problem keeping track of my dates. But i know that so im working on it.

Taking a couple clones today, but without gel or powder. Will see as cash issue. But read about making it with Willow tree new growth shoots. Cant hurt anything, but a few lower branch growth without killing yield to much. So il call it practice. Im trying something iv done with bonsai call air layering, will see.


:rasta:

[Rusty Trichome]

I never tried cloning without hormones, lol. Got it coming out of my ears. My future idiot son in law keeps bringing me jars of the stuff, asking "Didn't you say you use this stuff?" Why the hell can't he remember I use potting soil....? 4 jars of hormones do no good if nothing's in the pot.

When re-vegging for outdoor growing, do you need to keep 'em indoors for a full re-veg? Would thnk a couple of weeks after harvest, and they'd be ready to harden-up and go again. Would think you could pull it off a couple of months before the lighting problems. (day length) But I haven't grown outdoors in 30 years, and have forgotten more than I think I knew.

Depends on strain for how long I re-veg. I usually start taking clones at about 3 to 3 1/2 weeks, but for re-flowering after re-vegging, it is really strain dependant. Different strains stretch more or less than others. Also depends on what's going to be in the growroom at the same time. I try and keep an even canopy whenever possible. Much easier than using milk crates or hand-made plant stands. (I'm a woodcrafter, so lots of scrap)

Not much happening with my ladies. I do have a re-vegged White Widdow (first week into flower) in a sea of C-99 x Sweet Tooth, (6th week) but wife's taking a nap so the camera is inaccesable at the moment.

I've got some adolescents almost ready to flower. Have to re-supply the seedstock for my favorite strain. Got dangerously close to forgetting, and would be heartbroken had I lost it.

I got ahold of some Jedi seeds and some Kali Skunk seeds reportedly from BC. I've heard differing opinions from growers and now I get to see for myself. Jedi popped with 1/4" tails and are in-soil, but still waiting for the Kali to pop in the paper towel. Damn slowpokes...

Here's a shot of the C-99 x Sweet Tooth from last week: (or would that be Sweet Teeth since there's more than one...?) I call it Cindarella Sweet Cheeks.
A squat sativa dominate, and is as tasty as it's name. I jumped the gun a tad though...Usually it's a hastle keeping 'em under 4 feet tall, but this time I topped it twice early in veg, and put 'em in flower early. Looks like now I'm about to harvest 2 foot plants. Oh well. I'll have to adjust my notes on the strain, and be less aggressive than my notes said I should be.

[LetsSeeYa]

I never tried cloning without hormones, lol. Got it coming out of my ears. My future idiot son in law keeps bringing me jars of the stuff, asking "Didn't you say you use this stuff?" Why the hell can't he remember I use potting soil....? 4 jars of hormones do no good if nothing's in the pot.

Well Rusty i have a roommate that doesnt pay her share around here or i would have all of the supplies i needed. She is my ex, but the house is in her name too. Long story made short, im trying to out last her. My daughter goes to college in Aug. so after my harvest if she doesnt go i am. I like it here as it was built for us and in the country. Sorta tough mowing and such, but looking for a roommate thats will split the bills and help make the outside nice. Of course share the hobby iv come to luv.

Not sure if you have read about using Willow trees for the natural hormone in it to help create roots. They say and il tell ya i hate when people say ''they say'', well who says, is my comeback. Anyway the garden site i was on talked about how they will fall into a creek and float down, only to root themselves in a bank. The site suggests collecting the newer growth and mashing it and boil it for a bit. Then strain the growth matter and the liquid should help root just about anything. The NL is really important to me, i guess like that strain you spoke of is so i really need to get a mother. I think this way i can get the gel at some point and begin to grow by clone as im sure its faster. Im having trouble getting my grows in on time so iv had to buy from dealers with no concisions. Small and seeded always, plus its always pinched, even tho i give extra money or a bud off the bag. Just need to always have it in flower and some in veg i guess. But if i move il have to grow in a box, which might be great for some people, but i like my house.

I guess if i sell some of my harvest id be fine, but just dont believe in it. Now il give some away, but selling it, no one could afford it as id bring a big price for all my work and giving it away feels better anyway.

When re-vegging for outdoor growing, do you need to keep 'em indoors for a full re-veg? Would thnk a couple of weeks after harvest, and they'd be ready to harden-up and go again. Would think you could pull it off a couple of months before the lighting problems. (day length) But I haven't grown outdoors in 30 years, and have forgotten more than I think I knew.

Well thats what i did inside to get them outside. If that makes sense. I grew out my plants and sorta cut the bigger buds off, then when the smaller ones got bigger i cut them off. So i had 2 harvests indoors, but then before i really cut them down, i took a few more buds, but left just enough to give me branch growth. It was a pic in your other log that made me think of it. It was a pic not to do, and that was leave buds on, because of hight issues. Well im thinking non out side, so il leave a few buds and go 18/6 to see what happen. They began to put out branches faster then i thought. It only took about forty days and i had one out in the shade, which was the Edna. The skunk, i didn't cut right, but at this time i wasn't sure what i was doing, but now im sure just what to do for branch growth to grow on the outer part of the plant. As far as root trimming, i just did what you do, the sides an bottom, then back to same pot with fresh soil to fill in. But next re pot, i put them into bigger pots without any cutting of the roots as i wanted a big root ball going into the ground. Now iv noticed that the inner growth is finding its self shooting from the sides of all of them. I thought id have to open them up to get all of the smaller branches going, but nope nature is a wonderful thing Rusty. And people are fools for not using this method. But next time id like to re veg a re veg, lol. I would do just what you do, but after the harvest, i would put it outside with branches that would already be there so leave just a few buds. Now id need 15 gal pots and a couple people to carry them, but i think its worth a shot. Harvest would be very nice and 2 plants is all id need.

Depends on strain for how long I re-veg. I usually start taking clones at about 3 to 3 1/2 weeks, but for re-flowering after re-vegging, it is really strain dependant. Different strains stretch more or less than others. Also depends on what's going to be in the growroom at the same time. I try and keep an even canopy whenever possible. Much easier than using milk crates or hand-made plant stands. (I'm a woodcrafter, so lots of scrap)

See it was more easy for me to go outside then grow them like you do. Iv never taken a clone to flower before, which iv been busy learning other things, but its something i need to begin to try as from clones ya know what ya got. And thats something i need to have with the hobby. It will keep me with jars in storage this way. If i had the gel/powder im sure i could do clones as growing pretty much comes easy to me, its just that this plant has so much to it, that it intreges me. I just want to know more everyday, but i read so much, yet everyday find something to learn. And i guess thats why im so interested in it. I do enjoy smoking, but 80% of it is watching it growand i really never smoke till night time, to sleep and the pain that keeps me awake. lol, so the pain. Im taking enough pills so this keeps me from needing more of them.

Not much happening with my ladies. I do have a re-vegged White Widdow (first week into flower) in a sea of C-99 x Sweet Tooth, (6th week) but wife's taking a nap so the camera is inaccesable at the moment.
I've got some adolescents almost ready to flower. Have to re-supply the seedstock for my favorite strain. Got dangerously close to forgetting, and would be heartbroken had I lost it.

So what is your favorite, you never said? Never tried the others before, ya gotta remember as im new, i am used to weed being weed. No one has ever said iv got NL before. We do have lots of skunk tho and iv had NL, but people just get it from one to another and ya really never know. Stuff i got not to long ago was wet down, this way the can sell less for more, i was pissed, but all i could get as i really dont know any dealers.

I got ahold of some Jedi seeds and some Kali Skunk seeds reportedly from BC. I've heard differing opinions from growers and now I get to see for myself. Jedi popped with 1/4" tails and are in-soil, but still waiting for the Kali to pop in the paper towel. Damn slowpokes...

Here's a shot of the C-99 x Sweet Tooth from last week: (or would that be Sweet Teeth since there's more than one...?) I call it Cindarella Sweet Cheeks.
A squat sativa dominate, and is as tasty as it's name. I jumped the gun a tad though...Usually it's a hastle keeping 'em under 4 feet tall, but this time I topped it twice early in veg, and put 'em in flower early. Looks like now I'm about to harvest 2 foot plants. Oh well. I'll have to adjust my notes on the strain, and be less aggressive than my notes said I should be.

25 Years ago a friend was teaching me how to take clones from his giant skunk mother, but 3 weeks later i was in my wreck that put me into the chair, or id have been growing a long time. He was taught by a guy i never met, but was called ''daddy skunk''. He was an old guy that had the best skunk iv ever been close to and to smoke it was like Cheach an Chong stuff. And he would lite one after another, shew an oz was $200.00 and thats cheep, cuz id need $450.00 for my cross. And thats only, because thats whats going on these days. So thats why i never sell it, if someone gives you a sak your less likely to ask again. Its crazy these days Rusty.


The Cindarella Sweet Cheeks sounds nice and short buds smoke just as well i guess. I have been lucky enough to get a few different strains, but the NL will always be my favorite i think. If yours is as nice tasting like the NL, i would worry about running out myself. I have this mix batch of seeds that were bread by guys that know how its done. I feel very lucky to have been gifted them too, he said it was about paying it forward, which i believe in myself. So one day when im able to get my seeds stable il do for someone like he did me. Oh and when i went to my thread and saw ''i sent your beans'' Rusty i flipped out. Im not sure if she didn't know any better, but i did as i had put everything in an email. But ya gotta admit, those were hard to turn down. But il handle that sorta thing different next time.

So when ya get a chance id luv to see your re veg ya got going on. I re potted that 5 gal into the ground today, but put her in sideways. Its going to be big an maybe il try a SOG, but thats not in stone. I would had to bend it anyway as tall as it was getting im thinking it will at least hit 8'. She will be fine and put her near the re vegged ones where the bugs arnt so bad. But i thought id post her on my thread so i can see what she does. I had put rocks in that 5 gal plant last year and made it a bit easier to get out. But so root bound, it didn't have much time before it would have gotten bad. So i guess she can get as big as she wants now.

Talk with ya later my friend:rasta:

[Rusty Trichome]

Got some pix last night of the re-grow. The close-up is of the interior, where you can see the chopped mainstem. Re-vegged for a few weeks, been flowering for a week or so.
She's about two foot tall right now.

My favorite strain is what I call PokerFace. It was a medical R&D (research and development) indica strain from Reeferman I got around 6 or 7 years ago...? (wow...looks like a long time in writing...) He donated some seeds to a few of us medical users whilst I was frequenting another site. Said He'd disclose the strain name to those members that filled-out a grow report. I was the first and only member to do a grow report, but he never told anyone what it was.
All it said on the packaging was R&D Strain #1. I tried for years to get Reeferman to disclose the strain, but he kept ducking in and out of the forums, and wouldn't answer his e-mails or PM's.
But that's ok, because now it's my strain, and I'm ok with that. A few months after all this, he came out with a retail strain called Cherry Bomb. So if it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, and came from the duck-breeder...likely it's a duck....ya know...?

When re-vegging a re-veg...no changes in technique. After initial chop, when they are ready for transplant, I don't chop the roots for a second time. (looked like that's what you were saying that you do)

Hey Weezard: If you happen upon this post, any chance you could re-post that 'adding a picture with text' info from the Feedbacks thread that was deleted? I knew the thread was doomed, and I should have made a copy when I had a chance. Would appreciate it. :thumbsup:

Time to go make coffee and have a smoke...:jointsmile:

[GetThisOrDie]

Wow thats a crazy story behind your poker face. So you think its cherry bomb or maybe the indica he crossed with the herer for cherry bomb? That would be cool...

I wonder why he wouldnt tell you??

Pics look good... My first attempt at the reveg didnt go so well but I want to retry.

[Rusty Trichome]

Sorry...only took me a month to notice the post...:wtf:

Not being ReeferMan, all I can do is speculate, but I'm pretty sure he was still crossing it's genetics and preparing the strain for retail, and didn't want his genetics on Seed-bay before he could make his profit. (Cherry bomb lists a higher percentage of indica lineage than my PokerFace seed packaging said)

In my opinion, he's been consistently squirley since my first contact with him years ago. Seemed like he would hit a site for a while, sell his genetics, and move-on to another site. He puts-out great genetics, but seemed to be less of a people person than I. (hard to beleive, eh?) In his defense, word was that he was having business partner problems at the time too, so perhaps that played a part. (perhaps his partner got the indica genetics, he got the sativa's...?)

Cherry bomb is the only retail strain I'd buy if I had the money. Not just as a thank-you to ReeferMan for the quality genetics he donated to my wife and I, but to see if I'm right about the strain.

[laphter]

Rusty, I followed your advice to the letter except for the root trim. I have my "mother" plant in a ten gallon pot and I think she has plenty of root space for reveg. The coolest thing was after harvest I left four lower airy buds on three bottom branches, switched to 18/6 and dosed with 1/2 strength nutes and the airy buds are already starting to stretch out some nice fan leaves after one week. Great advice in this thread!

I think I owe a good bit to her genetics. These diesel plants seem to take a licking and are very forgiving. She made it through my first grow nicely and yielded over two ounces dry.

Question about training her during re veg. When would be a good time to start lst? I have read that after you cut down the main cola that side branches can be fooled into taking over the main cola spot if they are higher than the main stem, is this true?

laphter