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    #11
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    What the hell happened? Sudden death - Pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Clandestine
    . That plant, on the other hand, probably won't recover so quickly... if at all.
    I think if those pix are very recent, and he has watered or does so now it will pull through it. I saw one with 99% of it in the grave and it came back lol :thumbsup:

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    #12
    Senior Member

    What the hell happened? Sudden death - Pics

    Quote Originally Posted by jackforest
    oh, and

    -Indoor
    -Soil
    -Miracle Grow Potting Soil
    -Added MG nutrients too early, stopped a week or so ago
    -Soil pH - Unknown
    -Water source - Tap left out 24hours
    -Water pH - Unknown
    -Age of plant - 4 weeks
    -Type of fertilizer - none
    -3 23w cfl and two 40w cfl inches from plant
    -Room temperature
    -18/6
    -intake fan
    intake, but no outtake? You want negative pressure.

    You were watering with way acidic water from adding ferts without balancing or even checking the Ph after adding them to the water.

    COD: Ph burn, nute burn

    sorry for your loss bro, just get remember this lesson and be not discouraged! :rastasmoke:

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    #13
    Senior Member

    What the hell happened? Sudden death - Pics

    Negative pressure?

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    #14
    Senior Member

    What the hell happened? Sudden death - Pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Weedhound
    Negative pressure?
    little more air going out then in? i think that's what he means?

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    #15
    Senior Member

    What the hell happened? Sudden death - Pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Twentyinches
    I think if those pix are very recent, and he has watered or does so now it will pull through it. I saw one with 99% of it in the grave and it came back lol :thumbsup:
    True, I've had clones that looked completely dead make a turnaround and really blew my mind. I didn't mean to sound negative, I just wanted the OP to be prepared for the worst. There's no problem hoping for the best, though.

    Jack: Your soil looks to have a good bit of bark in it. Adding a little extra peat to the mix next time, or another moisture-retaining substance that's easier on pH, should help to ensure that the roots get a good mix of air and moisture.

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    #16
    Senior Member

    What the hell happened? Sudden death - Pics

    When dealing with passive intakes you don't really need to worry about "negative pressure". As long as your intake is about twice the area of your active exhaust you'll be fine. Some people make their passive intakes a fraction of the size of their exhaust with the idea of negative pressure, but all they are doing is limiting the power of their fans.

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    #17
    Junior Member

    What the hell happened? Sudden death - Pics

    did the temps go way up all of a sudden? if so i've been there but if you prop the stem up with a pencil and treat it well it should be back in action in no time. good luck :jointsmile:

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    #18
    Senior Member

    What the hell happened? Sudden death - Pics

    wow, well a lot of different information coming from you guys. Well, I trashed it. I'll start over from scratch. Better soil, no nutes, regulary check ph levels in soil and water. The temperature definetely had remained constant. No sudden change. I had the feeling I overwatered two days ago, so I was going to let it drink it all in for a couple days. Its decline to death took place over a couple of hours. Really sudden.

    If anything I'm not discouraged. I'll be back with avegence. Thank you for all your ideas.

    -
    Jack

    I forgot to add. The plant in its wilted state as seen in the picture has a lot of moisture in the leaves. Its almost completely soft.
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    #19
    Senior Member

    What the hell happened? Sudden death - Pics

    Underwatering combined with possible suffocation.

    You need an active exhaust more than an active intake- it is MUCH more efficient
    Water when the pot starts to feel light
    Control temps below 85'F

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    #20
    Senior Member

    What the hell happened? Sudden death - Pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Orzy
    When dealing with passive intakes you don't really need to worry about "negative pressure". As long as your intake is about twice the area of your active exhaust you'll be fine. Some people make their passive intakes a fraction of the size of their exhaust with the idea of negative pressure, but all they are doing is limiting the power of their fans.
    He said he had an "intake fan" That is an active intake.

    He did not mention having any type of active exhaust.

    Active intake + passive/no exhaust = positive pressure

    Hopefully he will get an active exhaust for this next grow.

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