Obamas Rev. Wright

[Orzy]

From what I've heard, being white doesn't preclude one from being muslim.

What are you talking about Muslims for? P4b's post was in reference to the black supremacist ideas that Wright has. I was just saying that I would find it hard to believe that Obama would harbor hatred for whites when his own mother was white.

Isn't just his preacher making foolish comments. What about his wife, and her statement a couple of weeks ago stating how she is for the first time, proud to be an american. It falls into the same category of (parroted) rhetoric. I wonder where she has heard those views before...?

Honestly, I think the whole "proud to be American" stuff is bullshit. When I think of pride I think of one taking pride in their work, not something that happened by chance. Besides me disagreeing with that whole thing.. His wife was merely trying to emphasize just how proud of the country she was at this time. She has said before that if it were not for this country her and her husband wouldn't have the opportunities they have. She misspoke and it sounded a lot worse that it should have. Lets pretend that she really isn't "proud to be American", bleh, do you think she would intentionally same something like that when her husband is running for president?

The examples you draw on to form your socio-political, socio-ethnic, and socio-theological views, says a bunch about ones character. If he had for many years developed his charachter and viewpoints from Hitler, Idi Amin Dada or Saddam Hussein, (no relation) would you not find it an untennable assosciation, given Obama is running for office of president of the USA?

Were I new to a city, and I go to a local church to hear about the word of god, to hear about my role in christianity and to have my morals and values re-affirmed and grown along christian lines, and a skinhead got up to chant nazi propoganda, bashing my community, my relatives, my friends, and my country, it wouldn't take but a few minutes for me to leave. And weather you like it or not, all the people sitting there in the pews for years, singing the nazi songs and praising the hatred, are either in agreement with the message or don't sprechen ze english.
I would leave because, altho learning about other cultures and belief systems is a great way to understand more of oneself, bullshit is bullshit. That skinhead preacher has nothing to offer me except hatred for others, and ways to interprete the bible in ways that circumvent conventional wisdom, and christian principles.

Just like Rev. Wright and his protoge.
(Mentorship refers to a developmental relationship between a more experienced mentor and a less experienced partner referred to as a protégéâ??a person guided and protected by a more prominent person.)

Personally, I've never sat in one of Wright's sermons, but I don't think you have either. A story comes up of him saying some crazy shit, out of his 40 year career as a rev., and you suddenly assume that all he does is preach hate and bigotry? Common sense tells me that a senator with presidential prospects wouldn't stick around if that's all he did.

But.. yeah, pretty much I don't care what kind of church our president goes to. As long as he wants to better our country and convinces me he will be a good leader then I'm sold.

Past presidents have had connections with people far, far worse than a crazy preacher. Thoughts of Reagan giving weapons to the Afghanis comes to mind.