i dont got either of them around my house surprisingly all the junk i got around here i knew alcohol could b used n i thaught about usin vodka to clean it but who wants to waste perfectly good vodka lol ive tried dish soap n mouthwash i got some purple power on my night stand but its allready been used like 4 times so it doesnt clean it anymore i usta purple power it once a month but when my bottle ofit was gone i never got around 2 gettin more n the grimes just built up in the middle lol doesnt affect how it smokes though gotta remember to grab some rubbing alcohol 1 of these days